(Glenn) Beck's Bogus Beliefs

To: Elsie; Raider Sam

Is that why you don't see ANY of us 'ANTIs' defending our 'church' like MORMONs do?

'Zactly. I despise religion. I bow to no man, building, statue or "sacred" place. Only Jesus.

141 posted on 03/21/2011 1:14:10 PM PDT by T Minus Four (Support the SFTSOPWDIABMTTPBTTASIFTF and stop this needless tragedy!)

“(Of course, this statement appears to assume that most are likewise so spiritually protected...that our country & world isn't loaded with spiritually fragile people too easily influenced)”

And you of course would presumptuously presume to be the protectorate of such emotionally “fragile” psyche's.

142 posted on 03/21/2011 1:21:22 PM PDT by traderrob6

Well I didn’t see your other post when I responded but your google info is wrong too, Roy never claimed to be perfect.

143 posted on 03/21/2011 1:24:51 PM PDT by whatisthetruth

To: divine_moment_of_facts

Apparently you are unable to comprehend that Beck does not believe in a Biblical Jesus. I explained it, and you twist and spin something I did not say. If you wish to believe yourself Beck is talking about the same jesus as you then go right ahead - however he does not.

144 posted on 03/21/2011 1:25:31 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)

i don’t start too many posts, but this one was valuable!!!

Yeppers....good work.

146 posted on 03/21/2011 2:01:18 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (White House war strategy 2011: Sun Tzu meets Barney Fife..H/T Iowahawk)

Hmm. I think Jesus was viewed at the time as engaging in “false teachings.” He repeatedly called on the carpet Pharisees who were more concerned with the letter of the law than the spirit of the heart. Something from Paul as I recall that the “letter killeth, but the Spirit giveth life.” Oh, wait. I’m in a religious forum. Never mind. Shouldn’t be quoting Jesus or Paul.

147 posted on 03/21/2011 2:01:56 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))

Elsie, I’m interested in the Mormon - Gnosticism connection, I’d be interested to hear your take on it. The lead article makes some very interesting points along those lines.

See my post 100.

148 posted on 03/21/2011 2:03:34 PM PDT by sasportas

149 posted on 03/21/2011 2:07:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I guess you have a problem with the JOOOs as well.

SOMEone had a problem with BLACK folks...

"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.

Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."
"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."
"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)

1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."

We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.

Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).

When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."

When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)

150 posted on 03/21/2011 2:09:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

They use the same words with dissimilar meanings.

Do they EVER!

151 posted on 03/21/2011 2:11:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: whatisthetruth

, Colofornian gets all his info about Roy from some old website about cults, notice how old the info is that he’s quoting....

Who cares how OLD it is?

Is it UNTRUE?

152 posted on 03/21/2011 2:12:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: whatisthetruth

HMMmm...

Mary Baker Eddy mixed with Scientology without the electric toys.

153 posted on 03/21/2011 2:15:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: whatisthetruth

Well I didn’t see your other post when I responded but your google info is wrong too, Roy never claimed to be perfect.

But; does he claim to be NOW?

154 posted on 03/21/2011 2:17:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

yup...

It ain’t NEAR as hard to get folks to believe stuff that’s in the bible,
as it is to get them to UNbelieve stuff that AIN’T!

155 posted on 03/21/2011 2:19:35 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Elsie, I’m interested in the Mormon - Gnosticism connection, I’d be interested to hear your take on it.

Sorry; but I'm not.

I really do not care what things influenced Joseph Smith and his made-up religion; other than the two demons who so convinced him of 'truth'.

Any thing else is a dancing-on-pinheads waste of time; IMHO.

156 posted on 03/21/2011 2:22:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Hmm. I think Jesus was viewed at the time as engaging in “false teachings.”

So THIS is your answer to how to oppose false teachings from a biblical veiwpoint?

157 posted on 03/21/2011 2:24:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

158 posted on 03/21/2011 2:27:41 PM PDT by whatisthetruth

159 posted on 03/21/2011 2:28:32 PM PDT by whatisthetruth

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