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To: daniel1212
According to Eadmer (A.D. 1060–1124), an English monk and student of Anselm, “sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus...[who] does not at once, answer anyone who invokes him, but only does so after just judgment. But if the name of his mother Mary is invoked, her merits intercede so that he is answered even if the merits of him who invoked her do not deserve it.”

Amazing! It sure sounds like either Mary can be tricked or she can be used as a cover for someone who wants to sneak past the justice of Christ. Both are outlandish and neither is Scriptural.

240 posted on 03/22/2011 9:02:39 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

It also psychology, the idea that the despite having been the only who “was tempted in all points like as we are, yet without sin,” (Heb. 4:15) and who ever lives to make intercession for us, (Heb. 7:25) Mary is more accessible and compassionate.

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2637924/posts?page=1078#1078


247 posted on 03/22/2011 9:27:31 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: boatbums; daniel1212
According to Eadmer (A.D. 1060–1124), an English monk and student of Anselm, “sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus...[who] does not at once, answer anyone who invokes him, but only does so after just judgment. But if the name of his mother Mary is invoked, her merits intercede so that he is answered even if the merits of him who invoked her do not deserve it.”

bb: Amazing! It sure sounds like either Mary can be tricked or she can be used as a cover for someone who wants to sneak past the justice of Christ. Both are outlandish and neither is Scriptural.

Sounds more like they're replaced Jesus with Mary. Instead of going to God the Father through Jesus the son, as was intended and is clearly taught in Scripture, they have us going to Jesus through Mary.

No wonder Catholics reject the authority of Scripture. It demolishes every corrupt doctrine the Catholic church has erected over the centuries.

Raising Mary to these levels is idolatry.

261 posted on 03/22/2011 9:55:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: boatbums
I have to say that kind of talk gives me the heebie-jeebies.

However, none of us gets ANYTHING because of our merits alone. In that -- pretty much in that alone -- I can go with this guy. All merits, even the merits of the Saints, including of our Lady, are Christ's merits.

298 posted on 03/23/2011 7:16:45 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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