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European court says crucifixes can remain in Italian schools [15 "Yes" 2 "No"]
CNA ^ | Strasbourg, France, Mar 18, 2011

Posted on 03/18/2011 11:51:46 AM PDT by GonzoII

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European court says crucifixes can remain in Italian schools


The Grand Chamber of the European Court of Human Rights issues its ruling. Credit: Council of Europe

.- The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that Italian public schools can continue to display crucifixes in classrooms, overturning an earlier decision that declared them to be a human rights violation.

Seventeen judges of the Grand Chamber gave the 15-2 ruling on March 18, holding that there had been “no violation of Article 2 of Protocol No. 1 (right to education) to the European Convention on Human Rights.”

The protocol requires that state schools “shall respect the right of parents to ensure … education and teaching in conformity with their own religions and philosophical convictions.”

In 2009, a lower chamber of the same court ruled that the crucifixes violated that protocol, as well as another provision guaranteeing “freedom of thought, conscience, and religion.”

However, the Grand Chamber – whose ruling is final, and not subject to appeal – disagreed.

Their decision concludes a five-year legal battle that began in 2006, when an Italian mother of two non-Catholic students complained to the court that the crucifix displays were a form of involuntary religious indoctrination.

In a summary of the Grand Chamber's March 18 ruling, Court Registrar Erik Fribergh explained that the judges had found “nothing to suggest that the authorities were intolerant of pupils who believed in other religions, were non-believers or who held non-religious philosophical convictions.”

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TOPICS: Catholic; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; courts; crucifix; italy; law; orthodox
Good for ya!
1 posted on 03/18/2011 11:51:51 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Salvation; NYer; narses; wagglebee

Ping!!


2 posted on 03/18/2011 11:52:48 AM PDT by GonzoII (Quia tu es, Deus, fortitudo mea...Quare tristis es anima mea?)
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To: GonzoII

But the bottom line still stands that human “rights” in the EU are whatever a majority of the Court says they are at any given time. There is no fixed standard just passing fashion and political power.


3 posted on 03/18/2011 12:39:54 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: GonzoII

Well that’s very gracious of them.............


4 posted on 03/18/2011 1:41:41 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: circlecity
True enough. This court is one of the greatest dangers for the future of a free Europe. For every decision they get right, there are 99 they get wrong.

Also, if you look at the makeup of the court, you'll see (what the press will never! tell you) that they have judges from Russia, Turkey, and other non-European countries! It's like having Mexican and Venezuelan judges on the US Supreme Court.

Judges of the Court

5 posted on 03/18/2011 2:08:51 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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Good news ping!


6 posted on 03/18/2011 3:14:08 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Moltke
All of the judges are from European countries. Turkey and Russia are also Asian countries.

Maybe there is some hope for these Euros after all. I mean, do you see crucifixes in US public schools?

7 posted on 03/18/2011 4:08:43 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: NYFreeper

Geographically yes (though I won’t accept that for the case of Turkey - that little plot of land they hold bordering Greece don’t mean squat to me) but so are Mexico and Venezuela American countries. Doesn’t give them a seat on the USSC.

I was thinking along the lines of political demarcations. Guess I’ll have to take a closer look at the ECHR purview.

As for crucifixes in US schools: right way up or upside down?...;-)


8 posted on 03/18/2011 5:40:10 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: GonzoII

Mussolini wouldn’t like this, not one bit.


9 posted on 03/21/2011 10:08:22 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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