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21 Priests Suspended in Philadelphia
New York Times ^ | March 8, 2011 | Katharine Q. Seelve

Posted on 03/09/2011 6:16:29 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg

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To: GOPJ
Good post.

We all need to forgive those who have repented - but we can forgive them while they sit in jail just as easily as forgiving them while they play golf...

Amen!

21 posted on 03/09/2011 7:09:14 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: gusty

I’m sorry but this is a really odd thing to say. “Clergy dominated by men with a lot of baggage”. You do realize that over 90% of Catholic priests are NOT deviants, right? They are incredibly holy men devoted to their calling.


22 posted on 03/09/2011 7:12:01 PM PST by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: kitkat
Yes, it was right here on FR. You can find it under “Catholic” in the search engine.

I'm sorry...this just sounds like some kind of bogus claim. I'll keep looking.
23 posted on 03/09/2011 7:12:15 PM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: samiam1972
Isn’t this the third time this has been posted already?

The story three times, the identical news article only twice.

Well, twice so far anyway.

24 posted on 03/09/2011 7:15:50 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Does anyone not believe that if this story had been "21 Baptist or Presbyterian or Methodist ministers suspended for sexual abuse in Philadelphia," it would be front page news instead of buried on page 13?

Nope. It wouldn't have appeared at all. Your particular sect has less adherents nationally than there are Catholics in the New York Archdiocese. And there are sex abuse cases out there dogging the Presbyterian church. I could start linking to them for you, if you'd like.
25 posted on 03/09/2011 7:16:38 PM PST by Antoninus (Fight the homosexual agenda. Support marriage -- www.nationformarriage.org)
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To: gusty

You must have a Ph.D in psychology. That was absolutely brilliant psychoanalysis on the typical Catholic seminarian.


26 posted on 03/09/2011 7:17:11 PM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Antoninus
It wouldn't have appeared at all.

The story would have been front page news.

Twenty-one RC pastors suspended in one city! Rome outdoes itself.

27 posted on 03/09/2011 7:23:42 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: D-fendr

Well, I guess the goal here is to make sure than everyone in the world knows about it because there are never any jokes or snide comments about priests and little boys. I’m sure there is still someone out there that is unaware of the very small percentages of deviant priests.


28 posted on 03/09/2011 7:27:15 PM PST by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

‘Tis true, in the USA anyway. They are all very spoiled and privileged boys who never grew up.

In the ‘forties, they hid out in the seminaries to avoid the draft. While real Catholic men were fighting and dying for their country.


29 posted on 03/09/2011 7:29:57 PM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: samiam1972

Yep. Never miss a chance.


30 posted on 03/09/2011 7:33:06 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Twenty-one RC pastors suspended in one city! Rome outdoes itself.

As a Christian, you should be saddened by the disgrace of these men. You should offer to pray for those of us who are working to clean homosexual abusers out of the Catholic Church. Instead, you use stories like this to attempt to score points--as if God doesn't see what you're doing.

Even so, we still love you and are praying for you. And I will refrain from posting links to Presbyterian sex scandals because I do not revel and exult when I see a Christian--even one of my separated brothers--fall.
31 posted on 03/09/2011 7:46:30 PM PST by Antoninus (Fight the homosexual agenda. Support marriage -- www.nationformarriage.org)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

Here’s the link about Communist infiltration

http://genus.cogia.net/


32 posted on 03/09/2011 7:51:58 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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To: Domestic Church

Many thanks! I’ll have to bookmark that for a later read.


33 posted on 03/09/2011 7:54:52 PM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

How many have been falsely accused? (There is $$$$ in it, and plenty of it.) We’ll never know. Remember the ‘recovered memory’ mania? This is the same.


34 posted on 03/09/2011 7:59:12 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Antoninus

I will stand with you, I do not revel and exult when I see a Christian fall and there are many more standing silently with you. It is one thing to express shock and sadness, it is another to relish rubbing salt into the wounds. Even if this turns out to be larger, there are saintly directives in what we need to do.

“What then should a Catholic do if some part of the Church were to separate itself from communion with the universal Faith? What other choice can he make but to prefer to the gangrenous and corrupted member the whole of the body that is sound. And if some new contagion were to try to poison no longer a small part of the Church, but all of the Church at the same time, then he will take the greatest care to attach himself to antiquity which, obviously, can no longer be seduced by any lying novelty.” (Commonitorium)

ST. VINCENT OF LERINS (400-450 AD) CONFESSOR OF THE CHURCH


35 posted on 03/09/2011 8:04:13 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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To: Antoninus
You should offer to pray for those of us who are working to clean homosexual abusers out of the Catholic Church.

Working to clean up? Try they are forced to....they had many many years to clean up on their own.

a damning grand jury report issued Feb. 10 that accused the archdiocese of a widespread cover-up of predatory priests, stretching over decades, and said that as many as 37 priests remained active in the ministry despite credible accusations against them.


36 posted on 03/09/2011 8:25:12 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Revolting cat!
Remember the ‘recovered memory’ mania?

And that applies to the widespread cover-up over many years how?
37 posted on 03/09/2011 8:28:56 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

MSM lies? Well, not when it fits our agenda, right?

Let us say, hypothetically, that 25 priests have been accused. And let us say that among the accusers have been 50 false accusers. (This is, by the way, nothing hypothetical, the false accusers in all cases outnumber the accused priests.) What is then the moral scandal? You choose yours (the one that MSM chooses for you), I choose mine.


38 posted on 03/09/2011 8:37:40 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!
MSM lies? Well, not when it fits our agenda, right?

What agenda are you assuming I have?

What are you talking about MSM? I don't watch TV. You went from ‘recovered memory’ mania?, to MSM, to my agenda. What's next?

The Grand Jury's Report - did you read it? If you do, don't come back whining to me. I'm not the Grand Jury or the DA. Or don't read it - nothing will change either way.

39 posted on 03/09/2011 9:21:14 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Carpe Cerevisi
I believe this has been attested to by reliable sources.

One woman named Bella Dodd who had been the co-chairman of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) testified before a house or senate committee in the late 40's that she had placed many men in the seminaries from the 20's on,they were to infiltrate the seminaries and consequently through the years,the Church. I believe the thought and intent was that by the 60's the Church would be destroyed from within.

She left the party and became Catholic.She wrote a book that is hard,but possible,to find,it was called "The Edge Of Darkness".

40 posted on 03/09/2011 10:00:56 PM PST by saradippity
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