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To: OrthodoxKirkPresbyterian

Although I really like the analogy, I can’t take credit for it. Also, how would you like to get a speeding ticket for speeding on a road where no signs were posted, and you find out the fine is having your eyes gouged out, your tongue splayed and raw torture for trillions upon trillions of years. Somehow that just seems a bit extreme.


102 posted on 03/06/2011 8:59:41 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy
"....how would you like to get a speeding ticket for speeding on a road where no signs were posted, and you find out the fine is having your eyes gouged out, your tongue splayed and raw torture for trillions upon trillions of years. ..."

So,..we've been speeding on a remote road again, have we,..Mr RobRoy?

110 posted on 03/07/2011 1:13:04 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: RobRoy

No person is ever condemned to hell for their personal sins.

They are in a state of condemnation from birth as a result of Adam’s sin in the Garden. Salvation means being saved from condemnation.

All sin has been bought and paid for by Christ on the Cross. He was judged for all sin. Sin is no longer the issue. Good and evil are the issue.

We still have an old sin nature after salvation, so we are tempted and we do sin, and when we sin we fall out of fellowship with Him, but He still indwells us by His Volition.

Look at Rev 20:12,13. They are not sent to hell after looking at sin, they are sent after a review of works. We are still saved by faith alone, and not by works lest any man should boast, but those sent to hell are not sent due to personal sin (except perhaps for the sin of rejecting salvation provided by Christ, if one wants to interpret the words in that fashion).

By persevering, we await the bema seat of Christ.

When we fall out of fellowship, we risk the judgment, but our names have not been blotted out of the Book of Life.


111 posted on 03/07/2011 1:22:31 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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