Posted on 03/02/2011 11:08:04 AM PST by Colofornian
The following is a list of men in the Iron Military District of Utah Territorys Nauvoo Legion militia whose names have been associated with the Mountain Meadows Massacre. The names have been gathered from a variety of sources that include eyewitness accounts, arrest warrants, criminal indictments, and newspaper articles.
A completely accurate list of those who participated in or witnessed the murder of the California-bound emigrants may be impossible to compile. Many of the participants kept silent about their roles. The testimonies of many witnesses were given fifteen years or more after the massacre. Those who admitted being at the massacre were usually careful not to incriminate themselves and their closest associates.
The names are organized in alphabetical order. Each entry includes life span, as well as age, militia rank (where applicable), residence at the time of the massacre.1 Because of the varying credibility of evidence, a note of [A] or [B] has been placed after each individuals name and age; [A] indicates there is strong evidence the individual planned, authorized, participated in, or witnessed the killing of emigrants, and [B] indicates that the evidence is inconclusive. Men whose names have been associated with the massacre have not been listed if there is little or no evidence to support that association.2
(Excerpt) Read more at mountainmeadowsmassacre.org ...
So for you it is not the information posted it is the poster that matters, is that correct?
When you degrade my fellow Christians that would pretty much make you ANTI-Christian IMO.
Pointing out obsessive misguided behavior is degrading? Only if you allow it to be. Learning from the experience and moving on would be a better choice.
Perhaps I could be classified as anti-anti-Mormon propagandist but that’s about it.
It is not ‘they’ who are misguided,....
As a fellow Christian with them I stand against the false teachings of the Mormon Institute, which cloaks itself as a religion, of which you claim association with. In doing so IMO this makes you an anti-Christian despite the fact your leadership is trying desperately to be accepted as Christian...Mormonism is not and never will be Christian...which is why the majority of the Christian community opposes your leaderships plight to assimulate into the Christian faith. Mormonism is recognized as NOT Christian for obvious reasons to those who are Christians.
It is not they who are misguided,....
Sorry we’ll just have to disagree.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is Jesus Christ’s Church restored to earth in these latter days. By definition it is the “most Christian” of all denominations.
The Mormon Institution desperately wants to be included as Christian...but that will just not happen no matter how often they call lay claim to Christianity. It's about as bad as when Islam claims to have similar beliefs in Christ that we do...they say it but they are a far cry from even remotely on the same page. So to with Mormonism.
LOL...
Way to go, that was awesome...
Of course you may want to refer to the LDS manual updates that have come down with the new “We are Christian just like you” campaign...
I think claiming to be “most Christian” runs a little counter to the current Corporate focus...
(Another hint, this may be a bit o' a clue to why the LDS lost the caucus thanks to you. Claiming to be Christian was bad enough,to be the "most Christian", well it is hard to be more offensive to actual Christians than that...)
“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is Jesus Christs Church restored to earth in these latter days.”
Prove it. As always, you make huge claims in your posts,
but fail to ever provide objective facts, evidence or logical argument to support your claims.
The following links make it clear as to why your claim
is false in every way, using objective facts, evidence
and logic.
Many mormons who are leaving the church have found great
insight and been exposed to things the official lds links
dont cover.
http://www.irr.org/mit/default.html
http://www.exmormonsforjesus.org/
http://4mormon.org/ex-mormon.php
Such an assult on Christ... and they are so very blinded by Mormonism teaching and indoctrination they simply cannot see the truth, further many do not want to!.... And yet it’s abundantly clear to any Christian who simply checks out the surface of their institution and practices that it’s a bunch of hocus pocus baloney designed to make insecure people think they are significant.
I Praise God that all our sufficiency is in Him alone...and that He is our all in all. What a Savior!...who sets of free!....Mormonism binds and destroys the very freedom from regulations and hard taskmasters which Christ delivered us from...and steals their money while it’s happening!
Frankly their teachings go way off the deep end into the dark realms....unfortunately the enemy of mens souls still masqurades as an Angel of light and knows quite well how to hook the unsuspecting.
Visual stimulation is used quite a bit in the Mormon Institutes. I have a hard time understanding why Adult people in their memebership don’t have difficulty with the artwork in many of their illistrations...very child like and often cartoonish. I suspect to keep the children on their course of indoctrination that everything within their Institute is about fun, happiness, and joyful celebration. They create a non-reality artistic world much like N.Koreas leadership....because it works to ‘control’ the masses from childhood upwards....
Additionally because it’s then a small step to teach them about all the planets and heavenlies mumbo jumbo so common in the New Age Spiritual Movement as well. As if what they teach is exclusive only to themselves...... many cults and false religions teach they have the “restored version” of Christianity and plentifully so, as well as all the planetary mumbo jumbo ...just different planets different ‘Masters’.
Mormons would realize the vastness of their mumbo jumbo if they were “allowed” to just research what else is happening in the religious elements of societies. It really is nothing new or restored at all. Many are laying claim to the same thing.
By who's definition? Yours?
LOL! Dude! Talk about jumping the shark...
Now instead of being the "only true and correct church", it's the "most Christian"?
Written by a card-carrying kool-aid drinker.
The only true and correct, meaning having all the truth, would naturally be the most Christian if others have portions of the truth. No shark jumping needed. Just basic English language understanding really. Neat picture though!
The following links make it clear as to why your claim
is false in every way, using objective facts, evidence
and logic.
Only in the mind of one whose mind is already set. Like an anti-Mormon propagandist for example.
You have it backward PD
My grasp of the English is quite comprehensive,but thanks for the attempted slur anyway. It was wasted on me.
Attempting to obfuscate or misrepresent the meanings of the words doesn’t change a thing. You said “most” [almost or nearly], how does that compare to “restored”, meaning “brought back to it’s original condition or state”? That would mean complete.
A contradiction, which is not unusual when discussing the things of mormonism. They’ve maintained an “all or none” approach, RESTORED. Not “most”, not “some”, not “partial”. Restored.
Mormonism is not Christianity. For over 150 years your church maintained that meme. Called all of us Christians many vile and offensive things through the years. I suggest SLC stick to it.
Makes things easier on folks, especially the folks in the ivory towers in SLC. They don’t have to go through so many gyrations to keep their lies straight that way. And it helps to keep their apologists from getting confused about the differences between mormonism and Christianity.
most Christian makes as much sense as a little pregnant.
You are either a Christian or you are not, you are either pregnant or you are not.
nit picking over these things is silly and a waste of time. “Most Christian”.... substitute “has the correct doctrines of Christianity” (which would be the most) if that makes you feel better. I doubt you don’t follow what I am meaning. You’d rather play silly nit pick games?
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