Posted on 03/01/2011 11:55:22 AM PST by knighthawk
Its official: Britain is no longer a Christian nation. In banning Eunice and Owen Johns, a devout Christian couple, from fostering children, Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson declared that we live in a secular state, and that the Johns religious convictions disqualified them from raising citizens of that state. Weve outgrown Christianity, the judges professed. Instead, we have graduated to the status of a multicultural nation, blessed by a plurality of faiths.
Ironically, the justices who have pronounced that Britain is no longer Christian did so in a court where witnesses swear on the Bible and invoke Gods help in telling the truth. I do not imagine that these judges leave out the first word in God Save the Queen nor would they shun an invitation to the Royal wedding, which is happening not at a registry office but the centrepiece of official Christendom, Westminster Abbey.
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Christianity is doing well in big parts of Asia.
It's really astonishing. I'm reading a book about the history of the King James Bible, In the Beginning. So far it's really a religious history of England. Church and State were one. Maybe that's why our Framers didn't want an official religion here, but still Church and State were one in the mother country.Its official: Britain is no longer a Christian nation.
Yes, and the prevalence of Christianity among the founders is seen in the last paragraph of the Constitution:Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth.The Constitution's writers took Christianity for granted like the air they breathed. The Constitution came out of a Christian milieu. It could not have come out of a muslim milieu; sharia would not have allowed it.
This is just part of the religion-is-child-abuse lie the left spouts from time to time. Even before I discovered the joys of conservatism, when I thought that liberalism was the shining light that would guide our nation to greatness, I saw through that one.
This guy and his Jacobin associates:
Good one. How about Italy?
I don’t think Italy’s decline can be attributed to one party. Unlike France and Italy, who have been nation-states for centuries, Italy has been united for less than 200 years. I think, generally speaking, it’s various ideologies of the left that have brought it down, just like the rest of Europe.
If chr*stians can't provide foster care but moslems can, perhaps it isn't a secular, multicultural state they have created over there, but an islamic "theocracy."
I wonder if Europe hasn’t been choked with unbelievers for 1500 years. Only difference now is people feel free to admit their unbelief.
They are denying God.
They are doomed.
The Judges are fools if they think we have "outgrown Christianity". Outgrown Christendom perhaps. Do they think the multicultural paradise we now live in is so, so much better? Objectively, I beg to differ.
Personally, as a Baptist by conviction, I don't think we should have a State religion. I welcome persecution by the State. Certainly the godless, immoral, double-standards culture that is modern Britain anyway.
We can't depend on the judicial system to defend our rights. Ultimately they are put in office by politicians, and are chosen not just for their credentials but also their particular legal biases.
It may be necessary to make significant additions to our Constitution in order to spell out very clearly what we know the founding fathers wanted.
The travesty of good Christian/Jewish couples being the only ones ineligible to adopt should be enough to generate real long-lasting action. If not, then its time to head for the hills.
Secular, multicultural societies say they are just being "fair". They say they are just preventing people (especially children) being "brainwashed" and instead "opening their minds" to other possibilities. In fact, they are always anti-Christianity. They attack faith schools all the time for the reasons above, but allow muslim madrasses. They stop children from celebrating Christmas on the grounds it might "offend" someone, but hindu light festivals are lauded because they promote "understanding". They disavow any overt Christian presence in public buildings, but build muslim prayer rooms.
Secular societies are NOT anti religion. They are anti Christian.
It's not a good idea to pick one's religion based on the behavior of the enemies of G-d.
By way of reminder from the Boss Himself...
“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.”-John 15:18 (NIV)
“But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’” John 15:28 (NIV)
Yes I do assume Christianity is the true religion. As a convinced convert, that is obviously what I would do. If you don’t agree with that, well I understand, but please allow me my beliefs, and please do me the courtesy of not assuming that I hold those solely on the evidence of the behaviour of the enemies of God. I don’t “pick religion” based on what other people think. I hold to those beliefs because I think they are right. It’s extremely insulting to infer otherwise.
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