Posted on 02/26/2011 1:52:09 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
"Grace is not a reward for faith; faith is the result of grace." - John Blanchard
"Saving faith is not a native product of the human heart, but is a spiritual grace communicated from on High." - A.W. Pink, http://bit.ly/drXWnO
"It is not faith that saves, but faith in Jesus Christ.... It is not, strictly speaking, even faith in Christ that saves, but Christ that saves through faith. The saving power resides exclusively, not int he act of faith or the attitude of faith or in the nature of faith, but in the object of faith." - B. B. Warfield
Justification is by grace alone through faith alone because of Christ alone. This is the article by which the church stands or falls...There is no gospel except that of Christ's substitution in our place whereby God imputed to him our sin and imputed to us his righteousness. Because he bore our judgment, we now walk in his grace as those who are forever pardoned, accepted and adopted as God's children. There is no basis for our acceptance before God except in Christ's saving work, not in our patriotism, churchly devotion or moral decency. The gospel declares what God has done for us in Christ. It is not about what we can do to reach him. We reaffirm that justification is by grace alone through faith alone because of Christ alone. In justification Christ's righteousness is imputed to us as the only possible satisfaction of God's perfect justice. We deny that justification rests on any merit to be found in us, or upon the grounds of an infusion of Christ's righteousness in us, or that an institution claiming to be a church that denies or condemns sola fide can be recognized as a legitimate church. - Cambridge Declaration
Faith itself is man's act or work and is thereby excluded from being any part of his justifying righteousness. It is one thing to be justified by faith merely as an instrument by which man receives the righteousness of Christ, and another to be justified FOR faith as an act or work of the law. If a sinner, then, relies on his actings of faith or works of obedience to any of the commands of the law for a title to eternal life, he seeks to be justified by works of the law as much as if his works were perfect. If he depends either in whole or in part, on his faith and repentance for a right to any promised blessing, he thereby so annexes that promise to the commands to believe and repent as to form them for himself into a covenant of works. Building his confidence before God upon his faith, repentance and other acts of obedience, he places them in Christ's stead as his grounds of right to the promise and so he demonstrates himself to be of the works of the law and so be under the curse." Galatians 3:10 - John Colquhoun (A Treatise on Law and the Gospel)
“Vatican Cult indicates a large percentage of RC’s believe otherwise...”
Doctrine isn’t Democracy. We don’t vote on Doctrine. Yes, some RCs are mistaken as to their own theology.
“Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father”
As are we all, the children of God.
“Mother of the Divine Son”
As she born Christ as the Theotokos.
“Spouse of the Holy Spirit”
As in the Annunciation, ‘conceived by the Power of the Holy Spirit.’
So what exactly is your problem here, Quix? All of this is true.
Hi Aruanan - I was pinged. What do you really want?
“So are you saying that since you have been saved you have committed no sin? Or are you saying that because you were saved no sin counts against you?
Sure I sin, but since I’m saved God does not count it against me.”
Well, good luck on that one. Just hope that God in His mercy allows you to plead invincible ignorance. Even though you are a non-practicing Catholic. Whew, you’re not the poster here who went through all the stuff in the Church, you know CCD, teaching Catechism etc.,? right?
‘Cause if you are I would be quite nervous about my after death experience.
There is no limit. One cannot exhaust God.
Does this mean that you can just sit on your butt and say Hey I’m saved and I don’t have to take care of the poor or visit the sick or minister to those in prison?
No.
Because after all that is good works and I don’t have to do any of that?
No.
Is that what being saved means to you?
No.
The motive and the reason for the good works has changed. It's not something I do for me to earn my salvation. That would be using other people for my own personal gain. Having the wrong motive would then corrupt the good work and make it ineligible to be salvific.
The reason to do the good works is obedience. When one is saved, then one wants to please God, to obey Him by doing the good works which He established beforehand that we should walk in, but most importantly, it is living the life of Christ and showing His love to a lost and dying world.
Why did Jesus do good works? He certainly didn't need to do them to earn salvation?
Tomorrow.
Ok. Blessings!
I should be around...
Then what is your problem with the Catholic position?
We are saved by grace. Good works is just the after affect of that. We do what we do to please God. Because we love Him and we look for the face of Jesus in those we meet day to day.
I have some errands to do while the weather cooperates, which has not been much this winter.
Stocking up on more ammo is one.
Check out this thread.
Mob Robbers And Rampant Looting: Is This The Future Of America?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2680483/posts
I will find material and get back to you on it.
This isn’t facebook but if it was I would push the ‘Like’ button. :o)
Welcome home, and may God bless you always!
I was pinged to this thread. So I reading both sides of the issue. I have a copy of that BC book. Very good Q and A. Nice point.
Thats Crazy stuff. I know your Catholic so you are mocking this claptrap goofball writing. Too much nonsense to refute. Thanks for sharing.
The question is...(’Since she has clearly stated she does believe in the ‘authority’ of the scriptures,) does then scripture authority she believes in trump traditions of men?
But I am certain she is able to answer this question once she’s givin it some thought...but appreciate you wanted to chime in on her behalf, However I will await her response.
Great for joining the Church, jkl. I bet you won’t be trashing your former church, though, like some “ex-Catholics” do. :o)
“This isn’t facebook but if it was I would push the ‘Like’ button. :o)”
That’s what I am always thinking! Maybe Jim can install a like button someday.
Some of which is written and believed about Mary..... which in reality upsurps the throne of Christ....according to the article written.
Crowned Queen of:
- heaven
- earth
- purgatory
- kingdom of God
- the tree of life
- vanishing sin and vices
- salvation
- the world
- grace
- the holy spirit
- salvation
....thus the Roman Catholic Church declares and lays claim on throne of Christ thru Mary.
Oh my...I thought Narses was a she!
Dear Jkl — the community of the faithful that is orthodoxy is blessed to receive you. Every one of those who come to the Church from other faith communities bring with them some blessings. Our family, Christ’s family, Christ’s body is enriched with your presence. Thank you.
Well spoken. However, do note the poster of this thread is a member of the OrthoPresbyterian C. The OPC and the PCA (combined are 350,000) posts here seem to have one aim only -- attacking anyone who is not a member of their little groups.
Proof:
No one is saying we can dismiss the volumes of doctrinal differences, yet we can acknowledge the common points and then debate as brothers.
However, the PCA/OPC don't view anyone outside their clique as brethern -- not the Lutherans, not the Pentecostals, not the Methodists, not Mennonites, not Arminian Baptists, definitly not orthodoxy. Hence they will attempt to foil every attempt at civility, at looking for common brotherly feeling.
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