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1 posted on 02/22/2011 2:53:05 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

Ditto to you lead-in statement.

This is like anti-discrimination gone haywire. I don’t know who opened the can of worms, but in my opinion, it stinks.

Methodist Caucus
Presbyterian Caucus
Lutheran Caucus

Catholic Caucus

Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

I can even see reformed caucus (only 500 years old)

But the sola sciptura and bible caucuses are haywire — basically discrimantory in my opinion.


148 posted on 02/22/2011 4:59:01 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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155 posted on 02/22/2011 5:03:26 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Here is info on Voice of the Martyrs which sola scriptura caucus has used on one posting.>{?
From Catholic Answers:
 

One of our parishioners has requested that a speaker from the group "Voice of the Martyrs" (www.persecution.com) come in to speak at our church about the persecution of Christians around the world. I work in the parish center so I was sent to a nearby Baptist church to hear the presentation.

The speaker was not Catholic and his presentation never addressed the plight of Catholics in countries like China etc. They do a lot of evangelizing (fundamentalist Christian it appears) to "pastors" in the trouble areas, but not to Catholics. They also distribute Bibles (not Catholic approved) and solicit money to aid in this effort.

In reporting back to the Pastor of our church I felt troubled that there was a major doctrinal issue in bringing this person in to our church to advocate a group that is clearly not Catholic in its beliefs and to assist in the distribution of Bibles not conforming to our beliefs.

Am I wrong in this? Does anyone know of a Catholic organization that could address the same issue of persecution with our parish?Yes...while they do good things I cannot recommend them to speak in your Church...and yes it is from a Protestant point of view often...

Here are some Catholic ones:

http://www.churchinneed.org/site/Pag...vridirect=true

Also google trinitarian international solidarity (also called S.I.T.) they work on behalf of Persecuted Christians and are Catholic --they have a US contact in MD

168 posted on 02/22/2011 5:17:24 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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278 posted on 02/22/2011 7:22:58 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!!!)
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To: Natural Law

I will join no caucus that would have me as a member. And furthermore, why a duck?


307 posted on 02/22/2011 8:11:26 PM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Natural Law

Interesting, a little over five hours since posting and already well over 300 replies. That’s better than one per minute. Maybe there really was a need for such a thread. My hat is off to the wisdom of the moderators.


325 posted on 02/22/2011 8:28:18 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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This thread is very much like one we had a year or so ago when a bunch of Protestants were trying to challenge the "Catholic Caucus" designation on the basis that the word "catholic" means "universal."

The Orthodox also were involved in the dispute and believed they should always be included in Catholic Caucuses. But there was an interest among the Latin Rite Catholics to caucus among themselves.

The issues of "once a Catholic, always a Catholic" was also raised.

And it went round and round.

The previous dispute was ended when I explained that the caucus titles are used for moderating purposes to determine who should not be posting on the thread and from that day forward “Catholic Caucus” would include any Freeper who currently, actively believes in Papal Supremacy. And if the caucus is to include Orthodox, the designation "Catholic/Orthodox Caucus" is to be used.

At post 110 you quote me with emphasis as follows:

Members of the Sola Scriptura Caucus are those who currently believe that Scriptures contain all knowledge necessary for salvation and holiness.

Non-members would include those who embrace Sacred Traditions such as Catholics, Jews who embrace the Talmud, Atheists, Agnostics, Mormons who embrace the Book of Mormon, etc.

At least two sects of Judaism - Karaites and Ananites - reject the Talmud and Mishna which are Rabbianic writings roughly equivalent to the Catholic's Sacred Tradition and Catechism. Freepers who are members of those sects would have an interest in a Sola Scriptura Caucus.

If anyone wishes to challenge a caucus label or whether the article is appropriate for a caucus, send me a Freepmail.

Do NOT disturb a caucus by making challenges on thread.

340 posted on 02/22/2011 9:05:45 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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this is a silly caucus


346 posted on 02/22/2011 9:23:44 PM PST by OrthodoxKirkPresbyterian
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So, let’s see what the fruit of this thread.
All the usual suspects having a huge party. All flavors of them.

And being called a whiner by the owner.

I told you. I’ve brought this up over and over amongst the group. We are here until what we believe is targeted. Until we become too much of a thorn in the side of those who are more equal than others, and we will be driven away too. It’s happened before, we may well be next.

We have a very short time until Ash Wednesday. We need to be still and know that He is in control.


375 posted on 02/22/2011 10:16:39 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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We need some rules...How much whining do I have to do to join your thread??? Is once enough???


407 posted on 02/23/2011 5:09:06 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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Here’s the point, which is old and pretty much outdated, some people show up as trolls, don’t reply to their comments. I would honestly provide a link to dealing with internet trolls here:

http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll-tactics.html

There are trolls everywhere, and honestly, just because some troll wants to post offensivsly, with stupidity, or both, doesn’t mean shutting down some forums. In addition, if someone violates the rules of posting (i.e. no profanity, no personal attacks, no racism or violence in posts, repeatedly, make note of the username and report it) If some post turns out to be a little rediculous and not worth one’s while, ignore it, and don’t respond. I’ve seen plenty of trolls in my day, and just because they can say some rediculous remarks doesn’t mean shutting down the group.


456 posted on 02/23/2011 9:15:33 AM PST by Morpheus2009 (I pity the fool - Mr. T)
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I’m calling “BABY RUTH”!


473 posted on 02/23/2011 10:14:20 AM PST by Natural Law
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Is there a “Poster Sucked In To Reading Threads Because the Title Is So Damned Vague I Didn’t Know It’s Another Religious Thread” caucus?


497 posted on 02/23/2011 12:11:58 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (You CAN get blood from a stone, if you throw it hard enough.)
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How about a caucus for those of us who drive BMWs?

There’s one I qualify for.

513 posted on 02/23/2011 12:53:49 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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How about I do not give a cr$p. As long as they are leaving me alone.
541 posted on 02/23/2011 2:52:22 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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Natural Law:

As long as the various Protestant groups represented here or other groups designate a thread as “Caucus” to discuss their own Theological positions and propose them for discussion and that thread does not get into a “compare and contrast”, then by all means I could care less as there is really nothing in most of those various traditions that interest me, and I would conjecture, most Catholics here.

There are few Traditional Anglicans and maybe some Lutherans who have some interesting things as those 2 groups have retained the Creeds and Liturgy and thus there is a better connection for charitable discussion between Catholics and Protestants from those Two traditions.

The only “Sola Scriptura” caucus thread that I saw that I questioned was the one regarding Egypt and its Christian population or lack thereof, etc. While the article mentioned that Egypt has a 10% Christian population, the article implied that what those Christians needed was American Protestantism, which in my view, was an implicit attack on the Coptic Orthodox Christians, who are probably 99% of the Christians in Egypt and have a history dating back to St. Mark in the 1st century.

Had the article in question stated there is chance to evangelize the 90% of Egypt’s population that is non-Christian, then I have no problem again, but it did mention the 10% of Egytians who belong to the Coptic Orthodox Church and thus the Eastern Orthodox should have been allowed to respond in that thread.

Still, if some group wants to form a caucus thread for discussing their own theology and tradition, go for it as from my perspective it actually helps because the threads labled Calvinist, Baptist, Joel Osteen, Pentecostal, Rapture/Dispensationalist caucus threads do not interest me at all. Period! and thus I save time.

Regards


546 posted on 02/23/2011 3:31:44 PM PST by CTrent1564
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Do you know where I could find that homeschooling thread that was ‘sola scriptura’ caucused? I’ve tried keywords ‘homeschool’, ‘homeschooling’, ‘sola scriptura’, etc, without luck.


559 posted on 02/23/2011 8:32:20 PM PST by Celtic Cross (Looking to escape to Idaho--Will work for keep.)
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