Are you omnipresent, too, like Mary, to be so certain no Protestant kneels?
We physically kneel before God.
Only because Roman Catholics think Mary is God...
Posted on 02/22/2011 2:53:04 PM PST by Natural Law
An alarming trend is developing in the Free Republic Religion Forum in which a caucus identifier is being claimed for non-existent or impossibly defined groups. With the caucuses being self defined we see nonsense like the Sola Scriptura Caucus. Of course it doesn’t mean all Scripture, only the thread initiators or Forum Moderators definition of Scripture. Jews who believe in the Scripture of the Old Testament are excluded. Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, and Jehovah’s Witnesses are excluded even though they believe in the sufficiency of their own versions of Scripture. The not so transparent purpose of these faux caucuses is clearly to exclude a group of FReepers in a modern day repetition of “Whites Only” and “Irish Need Not Apply” prejudice. If this is allowed to stand what will we see next; caucuses so narrowly defined so as to only include one’s bridge club or to exclude an individual FReeper? How about a caucus designation for everyone but citizens from New York? How about a men’s only caucus? How about a caucus for those of us who drive BMWs? And what is being discussed in these faux caucus threads? Critical doctrinal issues such as ruggedized aircraft, home schooling, and civil unrest in Egypt. Give me a break!
Perhaps you should take up golf, then.
THAT was funny!
Rejecting the Christianity authorized by Jesus and the Holy Spirit is not strong evidence that you are Christian. Scripture is full of instruction on Christianity. John 3:16 might interest you.
I will ping the good Dr. E. to this reply as a courtesy, which I notice that you did not do in your post.
Thank you; some days the jokes just write themselves. And most days, the jokes just write posts...
Would we all be so lucky...tsk tsk
THE Church is a spiritual entity bought with Christ's blood, not your institution of higher twisting. The powerful institution known as the Church of Rome may have you believing only they have authority with God's Grace, but you're mistaken to count on that.
It might come as a shock to you, but God can even keep His instruction clear through the morass of Catholic heirarchy adulterations of His written word. I believe His Spirit instructs directly through His Word and the texts focused upon His Word made flesh Who dwelt among us. I read the second century Latin texts of the Tanakh despite use of the phrase which lead to the name Lucifer, because I believe the translator was being led by The Spirit not the Roman directives, despite his being a Roman Catholic Priest. [Luther was a Roman Cathoic Priest also. You'd like to burn him however since he rebelled against the sludge level rising in your institution. I happen to revere John Paul ... haven't made up my mind on Ratsinger yet. John Paul was a 'servant of the Cross, more than the director of your instituion. That makes him my brother in Christ. How about you?]
THE Church is a spiritual entity bought with Christ's blood, not your institution of higher twisting. The powerful institution known as the Church of Rome may have you believing only they have authority with God's Grace, but you're mistaken to count on that.
It might come as a shock to you, but God can even keep His instruction clear through the morass of Catholic heirarchy adulterations of His written word. I believe His Spirit instructs directly through His Word and the texts focused upon His Word made flesh Who dwelt among us. I read the second century Latin texts of the Tanakh despite use of the phrase which lead to the name Lucifer, because I believe the translator was being led by The Spirit not the Roman directives, despite his being a Roman Catholic Priest. [Luther was a Roman Cathoic Priest also. You'd like to burn him however since he rebelled against the sludge level rising in your institution. I happen to revere John Paul ... haven't made up my mind on Ratsinger yet. John Paul was a 'servant of the Cross', more than the director of your instituion. That makes him my brother in Christ. How about you?]
What an absolutely precious face!
BTW, you can keep the extra “n” in ‘tenents’ typed by my tired old fingers. You might even need it some where/when when you make a mistake. Arrogance has an “n” in it, not that you’d notice something so close to your persona.
Thank you for your comment. Mark presumes a lot.
Mark is a self-identified Roman Catholic who believes in an "alter Christus" and a "co-redeemer" and other "mediators."
Consequently Mark denounces Trinitarian Christians who kneel to none but Christ while he prays to and bows before and "falls down to the stock of a tree."
Yeah, yeah. The Scripture that expressly authorizes the Church is wrong or means something else or was mistranslated or something.
It might come as a shock to you, but God can even keep His instruction clear through the morass of Catholic heirarchy adulterations of His written word. I believe His Spirit instructs directly through His Word and the texts focused upon His Word made flesh Who dwelt among us. I read the second century Latin texts of the Tanakh despite use of the phrase which lead to the name Lucifer, because I believe the translator was being led by The Spirit not the Roman directives, despite his being a Roman Catholic Priest.
Yeah, yeah. Scripture is all about you and what you happen to believe this evening and not about God at all.
Luther was a Roman Cathoic Priest also. You'd like to burn him however since he rebelled against the sludge level rising in your institution.
I would? How do you know this? Have I ever said that I'd like to burn Luther? I do know that he unilaterally renounced his vows to God. Now that is something that I'd rather not do.
I happen to revere John Paul ... haven't made up my mind on Ratsinger yet.
I'm sure that that hotline to God will be engaged as soon as you do. Will you put in a good word for me as well?
John Paul was a 'servant of the Cross', more than the director of your instituion. That makes him my brother in Christ. How about you?
Up until your postings of the last few days, I was under the impression that I was. I don't believe that I've changed my theology at all...
I notice that penitent has an 'n' and so does sin. The Via of Christ, on the other, does not.
Agreed.
His and the baby on the man’s arm . . . love them both.
Especially John 3:16.
Mark is a self-identified Roman Catholic who believes in an "alter Christus" and a "co-redeemer" and other "mediators."
Ephesians 3:16-19.
Consequently Mark denounces Trinitarian Christians who kneel to none but Christ while he prays to and bows before and "falls down to the stock of a tree."
Since you don't kneel at all, does that mean that I do not denounce you?
Ephesians 3:14For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
Paul knelt to God the Father. Does this mean that you know more than Paul?
But let us go back to Paul for some more of his actual wisdom, not snippets tortured beyond their meaning.
1 Corinthians 1:17 7 8 For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with the wisdom of human eloquence, so that the cross of Christ might not be emptied of its meaning. Ephesians 2: 14 8 For he is our peace, he who made both one and broke down the dividing wall of enmity, through his flesh, 15 abolishing the law with its commandments and legal claims, that he might create in himself one new person 9 in place of the two, thus establishing peace, 16 and might reconcile both with God, in one body, through the cross, putting that enmity to death by it.
Paul though more highly of the Cross than stock of a tree. Didn't Isaiah get the memo? Or are the Reformed torturing snippets of Scripture again?
Philippians 3: 17 11 Join with others in being imitators of me, 12 brothers, and observe those who thus conduct themselves according to the model you have in us. 18 For many, as I have often told you and now tell you even in tears, conduct themselves as enemies of the cross of Christ.
Enemies of the Cross of Christ? Paul thinks a whole lot more highly of the Cross than the Reformed do.
Galatians 6:14 But may I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which 10 the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
Boast in the Cross of Jesus. The Cross of Jesus shows what He did for us in His Passion and we Christians venerate that. A simple stock of wood is nothing and means nothing. But His extreme act, which no man can do is worthy of more than dismissals using snippets of Isaiah.
No one is admonishing anyone from kneeling before the Triune God.
We are decrying men who kneel to statues of Mary and dead people who may or may not now be alive in heaven, and assorted popes and priests and other transients who are not God, but mere men.
Read Isaiah, Mark. He is not talking about the cross. He is talking about making idols out of wood and kneeling to them and serving them as if they could hear their prayers.
Only God hears and answers our prayers.
He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied: yea, he warmeth himself, and saith, Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire: And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god. They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand. And none considereth in his heart, neither is there knowledge nor understanding to say, I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten it: and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree? He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, Is there not a lie in my right hand? -- Isaiah 44:15-20 "Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto.
The only problem with that statement is that nobody on your side actually kneels before God. You guys bray about kneeling and never do. We physically kneel before God. That is in part what separates Christians from New Age religionists.
Are you omnipresent, too, like Mary, to be so certain no Protestant kneels?
We physically kneel before God.
Only because Roman Catholics think Mary is God...
Wow. You took the time to count them! Must be a slow day your way, or a snow day...
Of course, we have a serial poster on FR that DAILY posts many RC "caucus" (and open) threads where there are LENGTHY post after post to ONLY herself. I only can assume it gets her credits in Purgatory, or an indulgence or two!
As a proud Christian, I get tired of being told I have no hope without membership in that CULT!
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