When we first started discussing the issue it was the three of them against me. During the discussion I was arguing for neutrality by the schools. They were of course arguing for school prayer. I then asked them what prayer would we use. The protestant argued that the majority should decide. I then stated the fact that the largest single denomination in the country is catholic and suggested we start the day with a prayer to mary. The protestant was of course aghast and blurted out that catholics weren't real christians. Needless to say after that I had two new converts to my side.
I understand that in your world view there is no neutrality. However, the government schools you degenerate so much have made this the wealthiest and most free nation in the world. The big problem I see with the public schools is we try to do the impossible. Unlike the rest of the western world we try to get everyone to graduate from high school and be college prep.
As far as going entirely to private schools most state constitutions require that the state provide a public education to all children. Therefore you would have to get a state constitutional amendment passed to get rid of public schools.
...I was arguing for neutrality by the schools.
...the government schools you degenerate so much have made this the wealthiest and most free nation in the world.
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Teaching children to think and reason godlessly, and/or teaching them to compartmentalize their faith is NOT religiously neutral. It **IS** establishing the godless government sponsored religion of secular humanism.
Here are a few questions and comments:
—Where are the double blind studies that prove government schools are responsible for the wealth and freedom of this nation?
— It is possible the if children did NOT attend socialist schools they would be far less comfortable with socialism as adults.
—How do you know that government schools have produced wealth? Hm? Perhaps we are wealthy for other reasons.
—Maybe we are wealthy IN SPITE of the damage that government has done to education.
— Where are the controlled scientific studies that show specifically where learning happens? Is it in the classroom, or is 99% of what is learned due to the parents and the child IN THE HOME?
— Without these controlled studies how do we know if children would have actually done better if they spent less time in school and more time at HOME? It is possible that government schooling actually retards social, emotional, and academic progress. The phenomenal success of homeschooling seems to indicate that institutionalizing children does indeed retard their development.
—Is is possible that the only thing government schools do is send home a curriculum for parents and children to follow, grade projects, and administer tests of the knowledge acquired in the home?
Vouchers have been ruled constitutional by the U.S. Supreme court.
If state constitutions require the existence of collectivist, socialist-funded, voting mob and comrade committe managed ( school board, prison-like, government schools, then there is an internal conflict between compulsory government schooling and the U.S. First Amendment and any state First Amendments.
ALL government schools are in complete and utter conflict with the First Amendment and freedom of conscience.
ALL government schools trash free speech, free press, free assembly, free exercise of religion, and establishment of religion.
This isn't **my** “opinion”.
It is impossible for a sentient being to be religiously neutral. ALL sentient humans have a religious worldview. It is either godless, agnostic, or God-centered.
In the same way it is impossible for any school to be religiously neutral. It is impossible for government schools to be religiously neutral.
For this reason, we should begin the process of privatizing K-12 education. Vouchers, tax credits, and charters can help in the process of building a completely private infrastructure. Eventually, we should strive for complete separation of school and state.
This isn't **my** “opinion”.
It is impossible for a sentient being to be religiously neutral. ALL sentient humans have a religious worldview. It is either godless, agnostic, or God-centered.
In the same way it is impossible for any school to be religiously neutral. It is impossible for government schools to be religiously neutral.
For this reason, we should begin the process of privatizing K-12 education. Vouchers, tax credits, and charters can help in the process of building a completely private infrastructure. Eventually, we should strive for complete separation of school and state.
Would you like to prove that assertion?
Do you know what the word "degenerate" means?