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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The denials are almost as reprehensible as the acts themselves.

Think about this. We Catholics have been under attack for the scandalous behavior of some of our priests. To our dismay, the purveyors of this information are propaganda rag instruments of Satan like the NY Times and the Boston Globe. Nonetheless, we have made use of this information and are endeavoring to rid the priesthood of these offenders. When you look at the sharp decline in the number of abuse accusations after 2000, it is clear that we are making a lot of progress.

You, on the other hand, instead of giving Catholics credit for the work we are doing to get rid of the homosexual molesters among our priests, continue to vilify us for the actions of these perverse individuals. Worse, you side with the hypocritical instruments of Satan to attack and slander us. Seriously--do you think the NY Times gives a fig about homosexual molestation? I'll bet if you took a candid poll, you would find that 100% of the NY Times staff thinks homosexuality is fine, and a majority favors lowering the age of consent.

This is all about attacking the greater Catholic Church and trying to tar us all with the horrendous sins of some truly pathetic priests. It's sad that some Protestants have taken the position of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and are willing to attack Catholics in tandem with the homosexual media complex. Just remember--your allies in the media have no love for you, either. It's only a matter of time before you are in their crosshairs.

But don't fret over much. No matter how many times you sucker-punch us, we'll still come to your aid when the devil has a choke hold on you. Why? Because despite your faults, we still love you.

Saint Paul, pray for those who hate the Catholic Church.
45 posted on 02/11/2011 10:04:13 PM PST by Antoninus (The slogan for the 2012 election: Better a known enemy than a false friend. Say no to Romney.)
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To: Antoninus
You're easier to pick on than some of the other more powerful participants
48 posted on 02/11/2011 10:09:08 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Antoninus

I hate the abusers and those that protected them. But to me they are not the Church. They bring great shame and scandal to the Church and I think it is long past time for some very serious house cleaning. With rules that allow no wiggle room when credible accounts of abuse are received and where the victim does not request not involving the police (I mean adult victims who are reporting long ago abuse not children who report current abuse) the authorities must be informed. If there is a separate investigation by the Diocese all information that is pertinent to establishing the facts in the allegations must be shared with the civil authorities.

If a priest is found guilty either by internal investigation or by the courts he should be removed from any public ministry. There should be no transfers unless that is the only way to assure he is not in public ministry.

But mainly we have to pray that good men don’t balk at becoming priests because of the scandal and because of the hatred it instills towards the Church.


51 posted on 02/11/2011 10:44:47 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Antoninus

For many it has little to do with hating the Catholic Church. It has a lot to do with seeing the abuse happen to school mates and seeing the devastation in elderly parishoners who are incredulous that such a thing could happen.


55 posted on 02/11/2011 11:13:55 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Antoninus
instead of giving Catholics credit for the work we are doing to get rid of the homosexual molesters among our priests

Credit? The problem only continues to grow.

It's who Rome is.

sucker-punch

lol. Ah, yes. All information not vetted by Rome is a lie.

Wake up, Roman Catholics. Your children are being destroyed, physically, mentally and spiritually.

"DELIVER US FROM EVIL"

91 posted on 02/12/2011 12:36:48 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Antoninus
Think about this. We Catholics have been under attack for the scandalous behavior of some of our priests. To our dismay, the purveyors of this information are propaganda rag instruments of Satan like the NY Times and the Boston Globe. Nonetheless, we have made use of this information and are endeavoring to rid the priesthood of these offenders

Well, I am a new Catholic and, since I was raised with a protestant sensibility and I did not experience a childhood filled with reverence for the clergy, I have a few observations:

1) The Church contains all truth, and, as such, is holy and indefectible.

2) There is a longstanding homosexual subculture among the clergy in Western Europe and the United States (at least). The men who belong to, or are sympathetic to, this subculture are not being reached quickly or effectively by the criminal process, and, as long as they remain in place, they continue to protect each other and cause enormous harm.

3) The extirpation of this evil, while to some extent the job of the civil power, is much, much more so the responsibility of the Church.

4) The Church, for reasons which must seem cogent to the men of our time charged with shepherding her forward, is not doing a very good job at exposing these criminals, nor is she presenting a coherent theological accounting of their sins and the consequences thereof.

Defensiveness on the part of Catholics is understandable, in a human sense. Enemies of the Church are wielding the scandals like a club, and the desire to deflect their blows is only natural. But this natural defensiveness is both obstructing the complete removal of what the Holy Father correctly calls "filth" infesting the priesthood, and is relocating responsibility for avoiding further harm onto small children through diocesan "safety" programs, when the only safety program that needs doing is the removal from the priesthood and the episcopate of all sexually active homosexuals who desire relations with young men and boys, the identities of whom are surely known widely throughout the entire institution.

99 posted on 02/12/2011 1:17:36 PM PST by Jim Noble (Reelect Palin 2016)
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