Posted on 02/11/2011 7:11:53 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
Welcome to FR, RR.
What country are you from?
I see no state flag flying there on your homepage.
FWIW, While we’re not perfect, America is far from the most corrupt nation on the planet. If you believe that, you’ve been swallowing too much kool aid.
But your America hating bile isn’t going to fly on FR.
And the above isn't a bit harsh?
Like it or not, the world knows the hierarchy of the Catholic Church as Christians. Apparently, not too many people care whether or not someone is guilty because they believe that Christ would permit the only Christian Church the world knew for fifteen hundred plus years to thrive on the molesting of little boys the whole time. They must because the accusation is unworthy of comment.
Now theres a wonderful testament to the power of the Lord. He can't seem to do anything about the largest Christian Church on earth and hasn't been able to do anything for two thousand plus years. Excuse me, I mean for fifteen hundred years he was incapable of doing anything. Five hundred years ago there was a split that generated thousands of different churches in accordance with Christ praying that His church be as one, and that's what he did about it. I gotcha. Jim Jones, David Koresh, and fifty thousand like him in this country alone, is what He did about it after only fifteen centuries.
It's no wonder that more people are atheist and agnostic these days and many fall away from the Faith. It's not a sign of the looming great escape, it's proof that huge numbers of those who claim to be defending the faith don't even know which spirit is leading them in their efforts. Spreading clearly anti-Christ propaganda is sport to a lot of folks who may or may not even realize what they're doing. There's going to be a forest of folks hoisted on their on petard sometime soon and they won't be able to understand how the Lord could let it happen to them.
Regards
Your comment would imply that gay judges would then go easier on gay priests.
Is that what you see happening?
The words of those documents condemn the church behind them and those who uphold that church.
Read the documents. Become informed.
I left the church (and all religions) in disgust years ago. I will trust logic, reason and intellect over the fables and stories of religion.
Sadly, your comment is typical of those who have been shown the error of Rome.
I can only encourage you to return to the Bible and read it. God willing, you'll find the comfort and assurance Rome kept from you.
"Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." -- Matthew 11:28
And what is it with altar-boys...Why does that group exist??? Is that where young boys are groomed and weeded out for their journey into the deeper secrets of the priesthood???
All good questions.
What parent would turn their young sons over to these people? Blindness can be deadly.
Yes, vengeance belongs to the Lord. But His saints are called to discern and judge sin from righteousness in this world now.
"Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?" -- 1 Corinthians 6:2
May God forgive those who don't discern lies from truth.
Rome elevates them, applauds them, rewards them.
They're who Rome is.
Priests are "another Christ." An "alter Christus."
We shouldn't be surprised men who believe such outright blasphemy are thoroughly corrupt.
Credit? The problem only continues to grow.
It's who Rome is.
sucker-punch
lol. Ah, yes. All information not vetted by Rome is a lie.
Wake up, Roman Catholics. Your children are being destroyed, physically, mentally and spiritually.
That is very true.
We protect what we possess. That doesn't explain, however, the many Roman Catholic parents who turn a blind eye to this treachery in their own church where their own children are clearly at risk.
This has nothing to do with me (thank God.)
Read the documents. It’s all there.
Years later, I confirmed the incident with my mother. It happened.
Thanks for that example of what happens and is happening all across the country.
Wonder where that priest ended up?
A bishop, perhaps.
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The Vatican’s own words betray your weak defense of the indefensible.
~~”You’ll note that these are still accusations, not convictions. Talk to me when the actually convict somebody.”~~
See post 40...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2672486/posts?page=40#40
Calm down. Step away from the keyboard. No one "hates you." No one is "joining with your enemies." No one is "slandering" you, since "slander" implies untruths.
The fact Rome is riddled with pederasts is not conjecture, but fact.
And it has been for centuries.
"Liberals" may have infiltrated your church, but they join the fascists who've always been there in one big scary stew of antiScriptural practices, beliefs and behaviors.
Well, I am a new Catholic and, since I was raised with a protestant sensibility and I did not experience a childhood filled with reverence for the clergy, I have a few observations:
1) The Church contains all truth, and, as such, is holy and indefectible.
2) There is a longstanding homosexual subculture among the clergy in Western Europe and the United States (at least). The men who belong to, or are sympathetic to, this subculture are not being reached quickly or effectively by the criminal process, and, as long as they remain in place, they continue to protect each other and cause enormous harm.
3) The extirpation of this evil, while to some extent the job of the civil power, is much, much more so the responsibility of the Church.
4) The Church, for reasons which must seem cogent to the men of our time charged with shepherding her forward, is not doing a very good job at exposing these criminals, nor is she presenting a coherent theological accounting of their sins and the consequences thereof.
Defensiveness on the part of Catholics is understandable, in a human sense. Enemies of the Church are wielding the scandals like a club, and the desire to deflect their blows is only natural. But this natural defensiveness is both obstructing the complete removal of what the Holy Father correctly calls "filth" infesting the priesthood, and is relocating responsibility for avoiding further harm onto small children through diocesan "safety" programs, when the only safety program that needs doing is the removal from the priesthood and the episcopate of all sexually active homosexuals who desire relations with young men and boys, the identities of whom are surely known widely throughout the entire institution.
Dr. E, in spite of working two jobs, having five kids, I am somewhat well read. That includes about the Church. You attempted to misrepresent to me. That, I suppose, is okay, since, in real life, we do not know each other, and you feel no guilt regarding that. Fair enough, that’s on your head, not mine. I have a strong belief I will not deny, nor defy. If you and I never agree or share kind words, I will still never lie to you. That’s on my head, not yours. I believe in Hell as well as Heaven, and I know where I want to be when He judges me.
If the people, religious or not, are involved in what has been charged, and are in fact found guilty, then I share the desire for their punishment. If they’re found innocent, unless mistried, I cannot condemn them. In this country, we all are to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. My comments came solely based upon your words, not the case in process. I will wait for the verdict.
On a slightly different note, dear Dr. E, in my admittedly not-terribly-eloquent way, I am one of those who uphold the Church. Some of the people in it aren’t perfect. But Jesus is. I’m happy with that. Actually, make that filled with joy.
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