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Posted on 02/08/2011 7:12:21 AM PST by Gamecock
HINDUS HAVE applauded Pope Benedict for including verse from ancient Hindu scripture Upanishads in the Good Friday Meditations and Prayers led by him at Roman Colosseum.
Acclaimed Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, in a statement in Nevada (USA) today, said that it was a remarkable gesture from Pope and invited him to study more ancient Hindu scriptures, which were very rich in philosophical thought. He or other Hindu scholars would gladly provide the help and resources in this regard, if asked, Zed added.
Zed, who is president of Universal Society of Hinduism, also commended His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI for inclusion of a verse from India’s Nobel Laureate Rabindranath Tagore’s Gitanjali and reference to peace icon Mahatma Gandhi in these prayers.
This year’s 'Way of the Cross at the Colesseum' Meditations and Prayers on Good Friday, led by Pope, included well-known verse from Brahadaranyakopanishad (“Lead me from the unreal to the real, from darkness to light, from death to immortality”), line from Tagore’s Gitanjali (“Give me the strength to make my love fruitful in service”) and reference to Mahatma Gandhi.
Rajan Zed stressed that all religions should work together for a just and peaceful world. Dialogue would bring us mutual enrichment, he added.
Pope Benedict heads the Roman Catholic Church, which is the largest of the Christian denominations. Hinduism, oldest and third largest religion of the world, has about one billion adherents and moksha (liberation) is its ultimate goal.
I'll give a million bucks to the person who can find that reference to Peter in Matthew 5.
“Likewise, you never provided the verse to show that the Holy Spirit is still inspiring divine revelation to us as you claimed in post 812.”
You are stating a falsehood. I never said what you are saying I said.
Correct the error. in that post.
In regard to Peter’s primacy and ability to bind and loose, read the Gospel of Matthew.
post 842
Everyone is alive somewhere.
But if their physical bodies that they inhabited here during their time on earth have died, they are OFF LIMITS to us.
And no amount of semantics or hair splitting can justify praying to dead people. It’s necromancy and it’s wrong.
Another day, another dishonest article posted about the Catholic Church. Surprise!
The article is from 2009. The Good Friday meditations from that year can be found at Way of the Cross at the Colosseum. It has this subheading: “MEDITATIONS AND PRAYERS BY The Most Reverend THOMAS MENAMPARAMPIL, S.D.B., Archbishop of Guwahati (India).” So he was the author, not the Pope.
I browsed through the 14 Stations, and found the reference. Here’s the full context, from the 14th Station:
Tragedies make us ponder. A tsunami tells us that life is serious. Hiroshima and Nagasaki remain pilgrim places. When death strikes near, another world draws close. We then shed our illusions and have a grasp of the deeper reality. People in ancient India prayed: “Lead me from the unreal to the real, from darkness to light, from death to immortality.”[1]
After Jesus left this world, Christians began to look back and interpret his life and mission. They carried his message to the ends of the earth. And this message itself is Jesus Christ, who is “the power of God and the wisdom of God”.[2] It says that the reality is Christ [3] and that our ultimate destiny is to be with him. [4]
[1] Brihadaranyaka Upanishads 1.III.28.
[2] 1 Cor 1:24.
[3] Cf. Col 2:17.
[4] Cf. Phil 1:23.
Ah, so he didn’t pray the pagan verse. It was a quotation. The meditations by the Indian bishop also included a quote from Shakespeare, but the overwhelming quotations/citations were from Scripture.
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
Reread post 812 and see what your response was to my comment.
Great research narses.
I’m sure the honest minded people on this thread will post their apologies on their incorrect interpretations.
lol, after they read the Gospel of Matthew, which they have been instructed to read.
You are nobody’s boss.
Did you ever figure out what CHAPTER you were referring to?
Talk about not knowing Scripture....
Sheesh.
Wrong, necromancy is the demonic raising of the dead in order to demand they tell the fortune for you. It is using evil spells to bring them back to the earth and among the living. Asking a Saint who is in heaven to pray for you or to give you comfort or inspiration is not at all the same thing.
I am very much aware of occult practices and I resent you accusing me of the same. It is a matter I do not take lightly and which I am 100% against. I would not even let my children read their horoscopes in the paper. So believe when I write I know the difference between prayers to the saints in heaven and necromancy.
“I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.”
Try reading carefully, post 812.
You : “So, even if all the word of mouth teaching, tradition for lack of a better term, were what was eventually written down”
Me : Some accept Tradition and don’t even know it...lol.
You : “then we now have it. It’s called Scripture and there’s nothing outside of that that is inspired.”
Me : Well there certainly is. Christ said so in regard to His Church. The Holy Spirit is with us even now.
Your error is in reading comprehension. You stated “nothing outside of Scripture is inspired. I did’t claim there was additional Scripture, inspired or not. I stated His Church was inspired, “Christ said so in regard to His Church”
Now, go read the Gospel of Matthew.
Now you spoiled the homework assignment, lol.
Matthew 16: 18-19
If that is true why do we have heretics who defend their heresy by citing Scripture? Using the written Scripture only show that Jesus is God and further show that it can not be refuted by appealing to Scripture.
Now you spoiled the homework assignment, lol.
Matthew 16: 18-19
In all sincerity, I thought they knew Scripture and would know that repeatedly stated verse. They probably don’t hear that in their pews to often.
Anyone can read - show us what you understand from Matthew 16: 18-19.
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