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Wait -- none of you, bkaycee nor boatbums nor smvoice believe in one baptism for the remission of sins? table with = 700 border = 3>

Our Lord tied the forgiveness of sins to faith and Baptism: "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. He who believes and is baptized will be saved."

Mk 16:15-16

15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Romans 6:4

4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

Col 2:12.

12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.

We believe we are united with Christ by baptism and nourished by the Eucharist.

Our Lord voluntarily submitted himself to the baptism of St. John, intended for sinners, in order to "fulfill all righteousness (Matt 3:15) The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation (John 3:5)

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.

Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament (Mark 16:16). The different effects of Baptism are signified by the perceptible elements of the sacramental rite. Immersion in water symbolizes not only death and purification, but also regeneration and renewal. Thus the two principal effects are purification from sins and new birth in the Holy Spirit Acts 2:38

38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

From the catechism

What are we to do with Paul, Cronos?

"I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius...and I baptized also the household of Stephanas besides I know not whither I baptized any other. For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel..." 1 Cor. 1:14,16, 17.

He not only didn't know whether he baptized any other than the three he named, he THANKED GOD HE DID NOT.

Something is VERY different here, Cronos. Paul says he was sent to PREACH THE GOSPEL, NOT TO BAPTIZE. And yet, the Gospel of the Kingdom that the 12 were sent to preach required BAPTISM FOR THE REMITTANCE OF SINS.

Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament (Mark 16:16). The different effects of Baptism are signified by the perceptible elements of the sacramental rite. Immersion in water symbolizes not only death and purification, but also regeneration and renewal. Thus the two principal effects are purification from sins and new birth in the Holy Spirit Acts 2:38

You don't believe your own catechism???

John 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst.

Another obvious metaphor for spiritual satisfaction.

Matt 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

OMG! another spiritual food metaphor

John 6:40 "For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day."

Notice verse 54 ends with the same result, "raise him up on the last day". verse 54 is the metaphor for verse 40!

John 6:47"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. 48" I am the bread of life. 49" Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50"This is the bread which comes down out of heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die.

Another obvious metaphor, comparing belief to eating.

John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”

Why no mention of eating His body to the pharisees?

Augustine rightly warns that "to take signs for the things that are signified by them, is a mark of weakness and bondage" (On Christian Doctrine 3,9). Augustine is here referring to the sacrament of baptism and the celebration of the body and blood of the Lord. Thus, to confuse the bread (the sign) for the body of Christ (the signified) is, according to Augustine a mark of weakness and bondage. http://www.justforcatholics.org/a181.htm

Mark 16 ;15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and 1) preach the gospel to all creation.
161) Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned

The first command is to PREACH ...the 2nd command is that the men MUST BELIEVE only then are they baptized..

The saving act is the believing

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Jhn 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Jhn 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Baptism was a symbolic Jewish rite of conversion ..it symbolized repentance and cleaning