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How The Reformation Changed The Church
frontline.org ^ | Dr. Peter Hammond

Posted on 02/05/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Dr. Eckleburg
i agree, why wouldn’t i?

Maybe St Abraham was the first pope??

981 posted on 02/07/2011 6:31:41 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

please explain if the Catholic Church did not set the 27 book NT canon, who did? The Baptists?


982 posted on 02/07/2011 6:33:37 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: MarkBsnr

Now it’s confirmed:

You have a paper head. And you act like it.

Since you’ve stopped arguing the point, it means you have nothing. Sorry.

Once again, and as usual, you fail.

Hoss


983 posted on 02/07/2011 6:34:56 PM PST by HossB86
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; CynicalBear; roamer_1; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; HarleyD
When the census taker comes to the door, he asks "how many people are in your household?"

Why must it be assumed infants are in the house? What rational evidence exists?

984 posted on 02/07/2011 6:35:13 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg
Don't be ridiculous or blasphemous. Jesus is God.

Peter thought He was.. was He blasphemous?

1Pe 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, [as] silver and gold, from your vain conversation [received] by tradition from your fathers;

1Pe 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

1Pe 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

985 posted on 02/07/2011 6:35:13 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg

How about those that hung Jesus on the cross..were they predestined???Or was that just” bad luck”??


986 posted on 02/07/2011 6:37:53 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; RnMomof7
Because you stated -- "gee, i guess there must not have been any elect until the 16th century, because there sure were a lot of people fooled before then!"

And I showed you from Scripture that your alarming statement is not true.

987 posted on 02/07/2011 6:39:16 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: RnMomof7

your question about was Jesus predestined, indicates you believe He is a created being, rather than the Eternal Word, the First and the Last. so yes, it was a ridiculous question, unless you are a JW.


988 posted on 02/07/2011 6:40:17 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: RnMomof7; Natural Law
Or Judas. Was he predestined?

Or was he just the greediest of the apostles?

989 posted on 02/07/2011 6:40:59 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg

Galatians 4:4-6

But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”


990 posted on 02/07/2011 6:41:11 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: HossB86
Now it’s confirmed: You have a paper head. And you act like it.

Interesting statement. It does not explain how my head does not got waterlogged in the shower, though. And my scalp appears to be identical to the other skin on my body, so I will have to reject your accusation, as I reject your inane and sophomoric, self serving interpretation of Scripture.

Since you’ve stopped arguing the point, it means you have nothing. Sorry.

We have accord. I find you sorry, too.

Once again, and as usual, you fail.

To bring the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the heretic, the apostate and the pagan? True; I fail more than I like. Thank you for the admonition.

991 posted on 02/07/2011 6:41:36 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: wmfights

>>Scripture you can explain how a thinking person knows there are children in the house.<<

The presumption that there are no houses with children in them would be totally ridiculous. If the promise was made to all then one can reasonably conclude that some of those “houses” would include children if not all of them. You certainly wouldn’t intimate that the promise was made only to those that did not contain children would you?


992 posted on 02/07/2011 6:42:04 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

ok, i gave you more credit than that. i thought you would see sarcasm in my post, but i guess that escaped you.


993 posted on 02/07/2011 6:42:44 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
please explain if the Catholic Church did not set the 27 book NT canon, who did? The Baptists?

The early church had, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit discerned the inspired writing ... those books were in common use long before Hippo.. GOD inspired the canon.. God preserved the canon...

As I pointed out before the Codex Sinaiticus and the Codex Alexandrianus, show a complete canon existed independant of Rome and earlier than Hippo

Trent codified the canon FOR THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH ..they have no power to codify it for anyone else ... the Canon is a work of God..not men

994 posted on 02/07/2011 6:46:54 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: MarkBsnr

The only man who deserves a perfect one is one that does this.

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

Oh and BTW that includes loving her when she makes mistakes too. In case you don’t understand the verses it certainly doesn’t make a wife your door mat .

Man sets the tone for his house . If the tone in his house is bad he had better start asking himself what he is doing that the tone in his house is bad.


995 posted on 02/07/2011 6:48:12 PM PST by Lera
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Tell Peter..maybe he was a JW huh?


996 posted on 02/07/2011 6:48:23 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: metmom; Dr. Eckleburg
Galatians 4:4-6 But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”

It amazes me that Catholics can not allow God to have a plan of Salvation.. it all just sorta happened.. and the excuses are so scripturally dumb ... They have no idea of the sovereignty of God.. I guess they think the types and shadows and the prophecy in the OT was just a good guess..

Jesus was prophesied in Genesis.. but they seem to think that the plan started when Mary was born and God said "look..there is a PERFECT mother for you..finally .."

Pathetic

997 posted on 02/07/2011 6:53:54 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
WHere did Paul go to the lost and say be baptized for the remission of sins? Please give me one command or even exhortation that water baptism was given by Paul in his Epistles.

And where, in Act 2 did Peter speak of the gospel of the grace of God, that is, that Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again the third day?

My contention is that both Peter and Paul were right. THey both had commissions given directly by Jesus Christ. Peter understood FULLY his commission given to him by Christ. And Paul understood FULLY his commission given directly to him by Christ.

Do you actually believe the Bible contains everything Paul said? probably it contains less than 1/1,000.

So it's what WASN"T recorded by the Holy Spirit that matters? As is in most RCC teachings, it's what's IMPLICITLY stated rather than EXPLICITLY stated that matters most.

The Holy Spirit was INDEED the source for both Peter and Paul. And yet Paul wasn't made one of the 12 when Judas committed suicide, was he? Why do you think that is, if they both had the same message and commission?

998 posted on 02/07/2011 6:54:26 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Telling ya Doc.. Scriptural ignorance is a free will decision ... :)


999 posted on 02/07/2011 6:55:29 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: metmom; RnMomof7; CynicalBear; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; ...

Let’s not forget, they launched into name calling, obfuscations, and other smoke and mirror tactics from the get go.

Must mean they know they are wrong.


1,000 posted on 02/07/2011 6:55:42 PM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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