But they have raised, er lowered...the level of ad homs to a new level!
Posted on 02/05/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by Gamecock
That was easy to figure out.
If it sounds too scholarly for your average FReeper, it probably is.
Going on 500 posts into the thread and not one Catholic has addressed the topic of the thread yet.
Nor has shown what are the lies and slander they’ve accused the article of promoting to be.
I believe they were actual churches.. not eras.. and the sin being addressed in them was real and present at the time of the writing..God speaks directly to them.. and to us through them..because the same sins afflict the churches today ... Gods word is always relevant and true..
LOL
This is a non essential .... I have studied both and come to the conclusion that it just doesn't matter..
My hope is built on nothing less Than Jesus’ blood and righteousness.
I dare not trust the sweetest frame,
But wholly trust in Jesus’ Name.
But they have raised, er lowered...the level of ad homs to a new level!
Argue with Luther.
ROTFLMAO - so sue me. I have often attributed that quote to Luther. That I didn’t here is not “Plagiarism” - and where is your - ahem - Christian Charity? Rather it was done on purpose - it was already attributed on this thread, I simply repeated it.
Thanks, Wish I could say the same about you.
As I noted earlier here that is the work of Martin Luther. Why? Does it offend you somehow?
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)
2 Thessalonians 2:15 - “So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by US, either by OUR spoken word or by OUR letter.”
This Scripture passage does not make the case for tradition through the Catholic church, it does the opposite. Paul is warning the Thessalonians to stand firm and hold to only those traditions that they were directly taught by the Apostles or heard from the Apostles own mouths or those that are written in Holy Scripture.
Don't be surprised if a demand that you provide them arises out of nowhere, along with some annoyance about time if you insist that your request be honored.
The New Testament was recognized before any church council ..it was read and circulated by the apostles and disciples.. "And when this letter has been read among you, see that it be read in the church of the Laodiceans also; and that you yourselves read the letter from Laodicea." (Col. 4:16).
The claim of the RC that it birthed the NT can not accurate because the NT existed before the RC
As I pointed out earlier..if they wrote the NT they should have done a better job of putting their doctrine in it , because there is no Pope, no priesthood, no assumption, no mass, no confessionals, no prayer to saints or prayers for the dead or purgatory.. etc etc
OK. Be more specific. Who agreed on what canons? Who decided what books were included and which weren’t? Who decided what was heresy and what wasn’t? Is the Protestant Bible different from the Orthodox? What did Saint Jerome have to do with anything?
Come on. Be more specific!
How is this not true? One of the problems that Luther addressed was the sale of indulgences to get people out of purgatory or to prevent themselves from going there.. selling relics was big money maker as well.. Latin was the "official " language of the church..is that not true? Most Catholics could not understand Latin ... is that not true? What is he saying that is not true here??
Yeah.
Their shrillness has been escalating the last few months.
Maybe they’re trying to develop a new sound weapon against Proddys . . .
death by piercingly high frequency 2 year old RC SCREECHING, WAILING AND WHINING.
Or, perhaps, alternately . . .
they’ve awakened enough out of the mind-numbed stupor of the
Vatican Alice In Wonderland School Of Theology, Reality Mangling, Chronic Professional Blaming, Wailing and Whining Institute’s
Vulcan Mind Meld Walking Dead Mode
sufficiently to realize they’ve been losing the game on the playing field of ideas and congruent behaviors . . .
and it’s giving them terminal fits of appoplexy.
. . . which results in them doing what humans tend to do when things start failing more and more . . .
They start screeching louder and louder at higher and higher frequencies in more and more juvenile ways—all the while pretending that’s MORE mature, erudite, informed and brilliant!
Too bad they’re totally oblivious about how they appear to those NOT lost in the
VATICAN VULCAN MIND MELD WALKING DEAD MODE.
I guess when one has to look through so many White Hankies to view REALITY, REALITY gets QUITE distorted as a minimum.
I hope and pray some of them wake up before things start falling apart big time as well as falling out of the sky . . . literally.
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