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How The Reformation Changed The Church
frontline.org ^ | Dr. Peter Hammond

Posted on 02/05/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

for a newbie you sure do demand a lot


461 posted on 02/06/2011 12:07:28 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: metmom; boatbums; Cronos

if you can’t understand the english language, maybe you shouldn’t be posting on here. just saying. something tells me from reading her past posts, boatbums is smart enough to answer the question. she might not, because the answer blows away her statement that the Church teaches we are saved by our good works, rather than by grace alone, but al least she understands the question.
did you understand the question in post #439?


462 posted on 02/06/2011 12:09:54 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: OpusatFR

“Catholics believe Scripture and follow it. We do not believe in Sola Scriptura.”

Well, that’s interesting, since Scripture fails to source or teach many things that the Roman Catholic Church teaches. So, that statement is meaningless.

“I’ll play tomorrow, maybe.”

And you’ll still be wrong.

Have a nice Super Bowl.

Hoss


463 posted on 02/06/2011 12:11:22 PM PST by HossB86
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To: OpusatFR

i think they read them, they just pretend they don’t!


464 posted on 02/06/2011 12:11:46 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: GCC Catholic; boatbums; Gamecock
As I said upthread, it's too big for this thread. If we picked *one* it might be manageable.
And frankly, an open thread is no place for such a discussion... Were such a discussion to be on an "Ecumenic" thread, which would curtail the nastiness from both sides, it might be a discussion worth having.

In other words I really do not have information to counter the article

I've got to attend to other things, so this is my last post on the thread. Feel free to FReepmail me if you'd like.

No surprise..

465 posted on 02/06/2011 12:12:01 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: 1000 silverlings

They tend to do that most of the time, n00b or not.

;D

Hoss


466 posted on 02/06/2011 12:12:34 PM PST by HossB86
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To: HossB86; metmom
lol, read this! answer that! jump down this rat hole! get off this thread! I'm in charge!

give us a break already

467 posted on 02/06/2011 12:14:53 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: HossB86

LOL! The Mormons can’t produce anyone who shares their belief before the 19th century and you can’t produce anyone sharing your belief before the 16th century, says it all. come on, don’t you want to try a drag out St Augustine, like some do?


468 posted on 02/06/2011 12:14:53 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: OpusatFR; metmom

***First, Catholics are not idolators and I won’t have a discussion any further with that type of blatant lie.****

There is a very fine line between veneration and worship.

If you asked a Baal worshiper (or an Aztec)why they worship the gods made of stone and wood they would tell you that those idols merely represent whom they worship and are not “gods” themselves.
This is what some RCs have said in the past on FR about their statues, they are represations of whom they venerate.

When Cortez took Mexico he burned the statues of the Aztec gods and forbade the worship of idols.

He then set up a statue of MARY and fell down before it. To the pagan Aztecs this showed them HE could “worship” his iDOLL but they could not theirs!

1Th 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Consider this..

Num 21:8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

Num 21:9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

2Ki 18:4 He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.

And this..

Judges 17. Micah the Ephramite stole his mother’s money, then returned it to her so she could build molten and graven idols which she dedicated to the LORD GOD.

He even got a Levite for priest to officiate over it.

Hsa 4:17 Ephraim [is] joined to idols: let him alone.

Hsa 4:18 Their drink is sour: they have committed whoredom continually: her rulers [with] shame do love, Give ye.

Hsa 5:3 I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hid from me: for now, O Ephraim, thou committest whoredom, [and] Israel is defiled.


469 posted on 02/06/2011 12:15:38 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; CynicalBear
i provided the exact links in posts 431, 432 and 433. it is all there for anyone with eyes to see.

You provided no links. There was nothing to click on to take us to the aforementioned thread.

Lots of threads go past 125 responses. Without more specifics, like which thread it clearly is, it's meaningless.

Provide active links or forget anyone bothering with it. We're not doing your work for you.

470 posted on 02/06/2011 12:15:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7
"In other words I really do not have information to counter the article"

Mind reading. Again.

471 posted on 02/06/2011 12:15:49 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: RnMomof7

Looks like they are performing to standard and acting to norm.

Hoss


472 posted on 02/06/2011 12:17:09 PM PST by HossB86
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To: narses; metmom

>> “She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding” <<

.
Strange that there is not a single word of that in God’s word...


473 posted on 02/06/2011 12:17:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: narses

Plagiarism = bad


474 posted on 02/06/2011 12:17:38 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

I have heard it said that the gospel offends..if it does not offend it is not the gospel


475 posted on 02/06/2011 12:19:06 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: narses; RnMomof7

“Mind reading. Again”

Nope — she’s just stating the obvious.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

Hoss


476 posted on 02/06/2011 12:19:19 PM PST by HossB86
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To: 1000 silverlings

you have my respect for your knowledge of the siege of Malta, well done sir.


477 posted on 02/06/2011 12:19:25 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
oh I'm so buttered up obama

newbie scooby do

478 posted on 02/06/2011 12:20:44 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: metmom

:D

Hoss


479 posted on 02/06/2011 12:21:05 PM PST by HossB86
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

I think there’s a big message in your experience.


480 posted on 02/06/2011 12:21:05 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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