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To: Salvation; Responsibility2nd
The transubstantiated bread and wine>>>Body and Blood of Christ is at the center of the Mass.

Except Jesus made clear the wine was a symbol not actual blood

Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup [is] the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide [it] among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

The scriptures are clear to those the really can read them

Sign and symbol

Now are you comparing the blood of a pope to the blood of Christ??

97 posted on 02/02/2011 9:00:23 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

One can read for oneself from the Gospel of John that the doubters in the bread of life discourse doubted because they took Jesus literally and found it offensive and unbelievable that Jesus would offer His own flesh to eat:

John 52-56:

52 Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.

56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

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Because there were so many doubters, Jesus kept repeating the fact that His real flesh was real food and must really be eaten.

Even today there are doubters who reject His words.

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...the Freepers began to argue sharply among themselves, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”...


99 posted on 02/02/2011 9:04:55 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: RnMomof7

YOU ARE MAKING THINGS UP
AND
THOSE THINGS ARE DEFAMATORY.

NOT ONE PERSON OTHER THAN YOU
HAS COMPARED
BLESSED JOHN PAUL THE GREAT’S BLOOD
TO
THE BLOOD OF CHRIST.


108 posted on 02/02/2011 9:31:46 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: RnMomof7

Luke 22: 14-20

14 When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. 15 And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. 16 For I tell you, I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God.”

17 After taking the cup, he gave thanks and said, “Take this and divide it among you. 18 For I tell you I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”

19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.”

20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.”

 

Mark 14: 22-25

22 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take it; this is my body.”

23 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, and they all drank from it.

24This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many,” he said to them. 25 “Truly I tell you, I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”

 

Matthew 26:26-29

26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.”

 27 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29 I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”

 

 

 


113 posted on 02/02/2011 9:41:25 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: RnMomof7; Notwithstanding

You really don’t understand. I will pray for you.

trans = transfer
substantiation = substance

The bread and wine is changed into the Body and Blood of Christ.

Why don’t you believe the words of Jesus Christ HImself in the Bible at the Last Supper?

“This is my Body.”

“This is my Blood.”

“Do this in remembrance of me.”


187 posted on 02/02/2011 1:13:55 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7; Notwithstanding
And to prove my point -- which I don't have to do, but am doing out of kindness to you, we have some of the many Eucharistic miracles posted here on FR. Surely you have read them? Actual heart tissue! Actual blood.

Eucharistic Miracle at St. Stephen's in New Boston MI.(Catholic Caucas)
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] EUCHARISTIC MIRACLES

[CATHOLIC CAUCUS]'Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity': The Miracle and Gift of the Most Holy Eucharist
Looking After a Eucharistic Miracle (Franciscan Recounts His Special Mission in Siena)
Eucharistic Miracle: 2009?
Possible Eucharistic Miracle in Poland
The Eucharistic Miracles(Catholic Caucus)
Vatican display exhibits eucharistic miracles
Eucharistic Miracle - Bolsena-Orvieto, Italy
Physician Tells of Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano -Verifies Authenticity of the Phenomenon
BLOOD TYPE FOUND IN ICONS IS SAME AS IN SHROUD OF TURIN AND 'LANCIANO MIRACLE'
Eucharistic Miracle: Lanciano,Italy-8th Century A.D.

188 posted on 02/02/2011 1:15:36 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7
Jn 6:53 “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

194 posted on 02/02/2011 1:27:33 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7; Notwithstanding
And other Holy Scripture references of the actual words of Jesus Christ. I feel so sorry for all of you who do not believe these words of Christ.
197 posted on 02/02/2011 1:30:49 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7; Notwithstanding
And other Holy Scripture references of the actual words of Jesus Christ. I feel so sorry for all of you who do not believe these words of Christ.

 Holy Communion, which nourishes the soul with the true Flesh and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus, under the appearance, or sacramental veil, of bread and wine: ``And whilst they were eating, Jesus took bread; and blessing, broke, and gave to them, and said: Take ye. This is my body. And having taken the chalice, giving thanks, he gave it to them. And they all drank of it. And he said to them: This is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many.'' (Mark 14:22-24. Also see Matt. 26:26-28, Luke 22:19-20, John 6:52-54, 1 Cor. 10:16).

198 posted on 02/02/2011 1:31:14 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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