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To: HossB86
Still no response to scripture that proves the Real presence?

Scripture has said it clearly
Matthew 26:26-29; Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:14-23 explicitly state that Jesus took BREAD, blessed it, broke it, and gave it to his disciples saying, "Take, eat; this [i.e., this BREAD, which I have just blessed and broken and am now giving to you] is my body.

1 Cor. 10:16-17, Paul writes: "The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread."

1 Cor. 11:26, Paul says: "For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes." Paul expressly states here that when we receive the Lord's Supper we are "eating bread" and "drinking the cup" (wine), but he goes on to say that those who eat this bread and drink this cup are also partaking of the true body and blood of Christ

In fact, Paul goes on to say that those who partake of the bread and wine "in an unworthy manner" are actually guilty of "profaning the body and blood of the Lord" (1 Cor. 11:27).
If someone wishes to keep denying scripture by denying the Eucharist, they will deny everything..
1,330 posted on 01/29/2011 1:04:11 PM PST by Cronos
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To: HossB86; boatbums
Remember, just as for some now to doubt scripture, it was also hard for the Roman pagans to believe Jesus Christ’s words directly or through Paul, hence Justin Martyr who wrote in his First Apology (A.D. 151) to the pagan Emperor “The food which has been made into the Eucharist by the Eucharistic prayer set down by him, and by the change of which our blood and flesh is nurtured, is both the flesh and the blood of that incarnated Jesus.

The disciples of Christ could not understand Him when He said
[35] And Jesus said to them: I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall not hunger: and he that believeth in me shall never thirst.

[41] The Jews therefore murmured at him, because he had said: I am the living bread which came down from heaven
Now these people, just like the folks who deny the Eucharist today despite scripture to the contrary, to these and to all deniers of the Eucharist, Christ repeated
[48] I am the bread of life.

[49] Your fathers did eat manna in the desert, and are dead.

[50] This is the bread which cometh down from heaven; that if any man eat of it, he may not die.

[51] I am the living bread which came down from heaven.

[52] If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world.
And, just like the deniers of the Eucharist today,
[53] The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? [54] Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. [55] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day

[56] For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed.

[57] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him. [58] As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me
.Jesus made no attempt to soften what he said, no attempt to correct "misunderstandings," as this was no misunderstanding -- He clearly stated it and repeated it at other times when there was confusion, Christ explained just what he meant (cf. Matt. 16:5–12), but this time He clearly stated.

And this is reinforced in the Epistle to the corinthians
1 Cor. 10:16-17, Paul writes: "The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread."

1 Cor. 11:26, Paul says: "For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes." Paul expressly states here that when we receive the Lord's Supper we are "eating bread" and "drinking the cup" (wine), but he goes on to say that those who eat this bread and drink this cup are also partaking of the true body and blood of Christ

and those who partake of the bread and wine "in an unworthy manner" are actually guilty of "profaning the body and blood of the Lord" (1 Cor. 11:27).
Now, anyone who still wishes to deny scripture which states this utterly clearly, unambiguously that what is in the Eucharist REALLY IS the Body and Blood of Christ -- no wonder they can then deny other truths.

Quoting luther again
"Who, but the devil, has granted such license of wresting the words of the holy Scripture? Who ever read in the Scriptures, that my body is the same as the sign of my body? or, that is is the same as it signifies? What language in the world ever spoke so? It is only then the devil, that imposes upon us by these fanatical men. -–Luther’s Collected Works, Wittenburg Edition, no. 7 p, 391

Luther pointed out that those who deny the scriptural clear statements of "this is my body' are repeating the words of the enemy, who cannot stand that Christ trumphs! All glory to God. He gives us His body that we may never hunger.
1,332 posted on 01/29/2011 1:18:49 PM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos; HossB86; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Christ is in the midst of us when we gather together....

Christ is indwelling each and every believer....

Matthew 18:20For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.”

Christ is really present in every believer. He already lives in us. He doesn't inhabit a wheat wafer. He inhabits us. People. The ones he redeemed.

We don't need to eat Him to have Him indwell us. He indwells us by faith.

Colossians 1:27 To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Ephesians 3:14-19 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

Romans 8:9-11 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

1,349 posted on 01/29/2011 4:15:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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