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To: boatbums; HossB86
Actually, no, it's what the Scripture says clearly.

All three accounts of the institution of the Lord's Supper in the Gospels (Matthew 26:26-29; Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:14-23) explicitly state that Jesus took BREAD, blessed it, broke it, and gave it to his disciples saying, "Take, eat; this [i.e., this BREAD, which I have just blessed and broken and am now giving to you] is my body."

And you have 1 Cor. 10:16-17, where Paul writes: "The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread."

Similarly, in 1 Cor. 11:26, Paul says: "For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes." Paul expressly states here that when we receive the Lord's Supper we are "eating bread" and "drinking the cup" (wine), but he goes on to say that those who eat this bread and drink this cup are also partaking of the true body and blood of Christ

In fact, Paul goes on to say that those who partake of the bread and wine "in an unworthy manner" are actually guilty of "profaning the body and blood of the Lord" (1 Cor. 11:27).

If you wish to keep denying scripture. Good luck to you.
1,284 posted on 01/29/2011 2:40:41 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

“Actually, no, it’s what the Scripture says clearly.”

It’s too bad that for ‘clearly’ to have meaning to Rome, the definition must be changed to ‘distorting.’

Re-read my post about what participation means.

Fail. Try again.

Hoss


1,300 posted on 01/29/2011 4:57:31 AM PST by HossB86
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To: Cronos; HossB86
In fact, Paul goes on to say that those who partake of the bread and wine "in an unworthy manner" are actually guilty of "profaning the body and blood of the Lord" (1 Cor. 11:27).

If you wish to keep denying scripture. Good luck to you.

Actually, no, dear Cronos, I am not denying Scripture at all. I am denying what you "say" Scripture means.

Think of it this way: When Jesus instituted the commemoration of his sacrifice for us, he took, what had ever since it was first performed at the Passover Feast, and revealed the true meaning. The unleavened bread - leaven being equated with sin - that the Jews hurriedly took with them when leaving Egypt - to the manna miraculously provided in the desert, to the shewbread kept in the tabernacle and the unleavened bread (matzos) that observant Jews continued to share in every Passover since, were ALL designed to be signs of the Messiah who would come and provide the "bread of life" - his own body, broken, for the sins of the people.

Now, I do not recall the Jews EVER imagining that the bread was the actual flesh and blood of the Messiah. Not once! Even those disciples present at that last meal with Jesus NEVER actually thought they were physically consuming the body of Jesus - remember Jesus also ate and drank the bread and wine with them. Was he eating himself? Drinking his own blood?

So, nowhere in Scripture is the concept that the bread and wine were changed into physical flesh and blood - NO WHERE. We should conclude then that the eating and drinking of the elements "unworthily" must have meant anyone who participated in the commemoration doing so to feed their bodies and not their souls. To eat the bread without believing in Christ whose body was broken for our sins, to drink the wine without believing his blood was shed as the propitiation for our sins, is to profane him because of unbelief in him as Savior - NOT because of unbelief in the simple bread and wine BECOMING literal flesh and blood. When we partake of these at the observance of communion, we are reminded of what he did for us. Those who have already trusted in Jesus Christ as Savior HAVE received him, they do not need to eat and drink him continuously in order to be saved, they already have been.

1,324 posted on 01/29/2011 12:22:05 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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