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To: HossB86
Christ's sacrifice is the same in each mass, wherever, whenever. All we do is repeat the offering of THE MASS, the renewal of the celebration, the commemoration, the remembrance, the celebration of the ONE-TIME sacrifice. Christ is not offered again and again, but He has already offered Himself once and the mass has THAT one-time sacrifice as it's sacrifice.

-------A----------------B----

This is the timeline -- we exist on and in this timeline. To us event A happened before event B. Event A can never happen again.

However, God does not exist on this timeline, God sees everything as an eternal NOW, so to give a comparison it's like looking at the line from one end -- it becomes just a point, a point at which A and B are together.

As Heb 10:18 says, our sins have been forgiven, there is no more offering for sin. Christ is not still impaled or suffering for our sins. --> the event we see has ended.

In heaven, what is seen is as described in Revelations. We witness that heavenly scene and witness that ONE-time event, the sacrifice, we participate in that ONE-time event.
1,175 posted on 01/28/2011 4:19:06 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos; metmom; Quix

You’re repeating bilge; bilge that has been refuted. Repeating it does nothing but show that you have nothing really to add; unless you actually do.

If so, please do.

Any sign of scriptural evidence for the timeline of purgatory, influences of prayers of the saints thereon, or the impact of indulgences?

I’m still waiting — either there is or there is not.

Ignoring it won’t make it go away.

Hoss


1,190 posted on 01/28/2011 6:31:07 AM PST by HossB86
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To: Cronos
However, God does not exist on this timeline, God sees everything as an eternal NOW, so to give a comparison it's like looking at the line from one end -- it becomes just a point, a point at which A and B are together.

That's way too much secular philosophy with way too little bible...

In heaven, what is seen is as described in Revelations. We witness that heavenly scene and witness that ONE-time event, the sacrifice, we participate in that ONE-time event.

No, the Apostle John witnessed that scene...Did John see anything else???

Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

Does that sound like a description of a lamb that had been slain???

Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

A slain lamb with seven horns...

You notice what the verse did NOT say??? It did not say 'there stood a lamb that was being slain'...John saw the lamb after it had been slain...

The sacrifice is over...It's been over for 2000 years...There is no way possible that anyone you know could be participating in that sacrifice...

Your religion sure does torture the scriptures...

1,218 posted on 01/28/2011 11:15:28 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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