To: editor-surveyor; one Lord one faith one baptism
No, he Comforts the church, but he is removed when the church is removed. So who is it allegedly that brings about the conversion of all those tribulation saints if the Holy Spirit is on the side lines?
577 posted on
01/17/2011 7:08:03 PM PST by
topcat54
("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
To: topcat54
Scripture reference please.
To: topcat54
correct, John 6:44. The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father thru Jesus to draw men to Christ, without the Holy Spirit, no one can be saved.
To: topcat54
So who is it allegedly that brings about the conversion of all those tribulation saints if the Holy Spirit is on the side lines? Amen! That is the crux of the discussion. Dispensationalists believe there is a time when the Holy Spirit is not in this world, and there is no Scriptural basis for that view, as evidenced by your excellent verses in post 606.
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." -- Matthew 28:19-20
653 posted on
01/17/2011 10:30:28 PM PST by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: editor-surveyor; one Lord one faith one baptism; topcat54; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; the_conscience
Editor No, he Comforts the church, but he (The Holy Spirit) is removed when the church is removed.
sorry, what do you mean by the "Holy Spirit is removed"?
As TC has correctly pointed out The fact is there is no other agent other than the Holy Spirit by which a person can become a true child of God. Since the time of creation until the time of the new creation the new heavens and new earth, the Spirit of God has been at work in the world.
Yet, because of the dispensational pre-trib rapture _____, we are to believe that the Holy Spirit will be removed from the earth for seven year --> is this true, editor-surveyor? I ask because I do not know if this is what dispensationalist pre-trib folks believe or not.
674 posted on
01/18/2011 2:03:17 AM PST by
Cronos
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