[Iscool]

As far as being able to find the pretribulation rapture in the Bible, we don’t need to be rocket scientists to discover it. For me, locating the rapture doctrine in the Bible was as simple as finding evidence that Jesus Christ is Messiah.

So true...One has to Allegorize the book of Revelation or claim the events already took place in order to miss the Rapture in the book of Revelation...

The evidence that Christians believed in the rapture long before MacDonald does not seem to have sunk into the minds of those opposed to the rapture. They still teach that she is the founder of pretribulationism. When someone is presented with overwhelming proof that he or she is wrong and refuses to accept that truth, then we certainly may conclude that he or she is in spiritual darkness.

The events of the Rapture have always been in the scripture...Obviously the Catholic religion has been teaching against the Rapture for centuries...And what is it they teach??? They say, 'don't believe it literally'...And the children follow the piper...

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

They teach Jesus will have one second coming, not a secret one and then a seven year wait. And when He comes for the second time, we will be caught up with Him and it will be Judgement Day. Those in the Body of Christ will be saved, those not in Christ will be damned! Pretty simple.

[Cronos]

Iscool: The events of the Rapture have always been in the scripture

Ok, now, TC and RB asked for scriptural proof for your statement. Perhaps you can give it to them

[Lee N. Field]

So true...One has to Allegorize the book of Revelation or claim the events already took place in order to miss the Rapture in the book of Revelation...

OK, I'll bite. Where is it? "Come up here and I will show you the things that will take place after this" ain't it.