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To: daniel1212
Back from shovelin!

We have a very Christian minded neighbour with a compact Kubota tractor who assisted us very very well. Even so, it took nearly half an hour to clear our driveway alone!!! And it is only about 50 feet long!!!

Where is infallibility defined as outcome of interpretation? NCE, Infallibility: “The supernatural prerogative by which the Church of Christ is, by a special Divine assistance, preserved from liability to error in her definitive dogmatic teaching regarding matters of faith and morals.” “when we speak of the Church's infallibility we mean, at least primarily and principally, what is sometimes called active as distinguished from passive infallibility. We mean in other words that the Church is infallible in her objective definitive teaching regarding faith and morals, not that believers are infallible in their subjective interpretation of her teaching...nor is the general or even unanimous consent of the faithful in believing a distinct and independent organ of infallibility.” Also, Orig. Catholic Encyclopedia: “infallibility means more than exemption from actual error; it means exemption from the possibility of error.”

Yey again (consistent to your definition), the fact that sedevacantists can teach error from (presumably) correct magisterial teaching demonstrates that the magisterium cannot be infallible which refers to outcomes of interpretation.

The sedevacantists hold with Church teaching on Scripture; they do not hold with the succession of the Popes, which is extra-Scriptural.

We understand that is your belief, which is not the issue, but how one ascertains this, as one cannot know for sure from the Scriptures, which you assure us cannot be. Contd below. As for “Catholic Church,” what is not said in your careful wording is what this includes. If the infallible magisterium includes the Orthodox, then it excludes the Roman papacy, and her purgatory, etc.

The differences are in the Latin penchant for definition, whereas the Orthodox are Greek and prefer to leave certain things as undefined.

That what is obvious is that that the assuredly infallible magisterium does not prevent the need for fallible interpretation, though it provides parameters. And evangelical SS type churches have their core truth and parameters as well, and evidence even more unity among members in certain core truths and moral values, despite diversity.

SS type?

2,977 posted on 02/02/2011 5:49:11 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: MarkBsnr

50 feet? Were i live (18k per sq mile) that could be a lot of space, which we need to put the snow.

I nee only just briefly address 2 things

As re the sedevacantists holding with Church teaching on Scripture but the succession of the Popes, they actually think the chair has been empty since either the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958 or Pope John XXIII in 1963, due to the embrace of Modernism, or of having otherwise denied or contradicted solemnly defined (as they see them) Catholic dogmas

As re SS type, it means sola (not solo) scriptura.

Good weather sites:
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http://www.wunderground.com/US/Region/US/2xpxJetStream.html?MR=1 (that’s the issue)

http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?animate=true

http://www.accuweather.com/video/774044729001/is-a-record-cold-sat-era-globa.asp?channel=vbbastaj (that’s the anti AGW man)


3,008 posted on 02/02/2011 7:55:27 PM PST by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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