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To: Dr. Eckleburg; kosta50
If a man commits murder and never repents, he wasn't saved in the first place.

Thank you, DrE. So few truly understand "the perseverence of the saints".

Why in the world would anyone assume that a serial, rapist murderer was a heart believer in the Good Shepherd in the first place?

"Persevering" means "continuing as saints" not just in their destiny but in their walk. Not continuing (abiding) is a sign they never were with us in the first place.

2,912 posted on 02/02/2011 1:09:37 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: xzins; Dr. Eckleburg
What if he repents? As per Lutheran theology (please correct if I'm wrong), he can and will be saved. however, the saved person can also lose his salvation and reject God.

Ezekiel 33 says that both can happen.

Do you agree/disagree with Dr. E's statement in post 2873 Thanks for providing evidence that the liberal church teaching of free will has infected the Lutherans, too, in contradiction to what Martin Luther taught from Scripture.

As a Lutheran, you will of course reject double-predestination, correct? So then what do you make of Dr. Eck's statement For example, (some) Lutherans, Pentecostals, Methodists do not believe in double-predestination are there any Lutherans that DO believe in double-predestination?
2,918 posted on 02/02/2011 1:45:37 PM PST by Cronos
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