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To: Cronos; aruanan
And of course they believe that Christianiy=Calvinism ONLY

You've misstated me post again.

I, nor anyone here, has written the word "only" in that sentence. Only you.

Do either of you believe Roman Catholicism = Christianity?

Are you ashamed of your beliefs?

2,701 posted on 02/01/2011 11:48:59 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Cronos
You've misstated me post again.

I, nor anyone here, has written the word "only" in that sentence. Only you.

Do either of you believe Roman Catholicism = Christianity?

Are you ashamed of your beliefs?


First of all, I was simply providing an accurate quote. On the other hand, there have been many Calvinists who 1. have equated Calvinism with the Reformation, and 2. have equated Calvinism with the Gospel. It may be simply that you aren't conversant with Calvinist beliefs on the subject. Here are a few examples:
1. Calvinism = Reformation
a. R.C. Sproul, in his introduction to the New Geneva Study Bible that aggressively promotes Calvinism in the margin notes, refers to it as "Reformation truth."*

b. "We therefore call upon evangelicals to affirm a vision for reformation which is in accordance with the witness of Scripture and in continuity with the history testimony of the church. Such a vision is of a church which is both Catholic and Reformed. By 'Catholic' we do not mean 'Roman Catholic.' By Reformed, we mean that we confess those doctrines about the authority of Scripture and salvation by grace alone which our Reformed forefathers reaffirmed at the time of the Reformation. (emphasis in the original) "The London Declaration 2000: Alliance of Reformation Christians-A vision for biblical unity in the modern church, "The Evangelican Problem""

c. "We likewise affirm that we are Augustinians in our doctrine of man and in our doctrine of salvation. This is because we believe that Augustine and his successors, including the Reformers, faithfully reflect the Bible's teaching..." [followed by a list of tulip points] The London Declaration (Now go back to b. and substitute "Calvinism" for "Reformation" and you'll see their objective)

d. "The great advantage of the Reformed Faith is that in the framework of the Five Points of Calvinism it sets forth clearly what the Bible teaches concerning the way of salvation." Loraine Boettner, The Reformed Faith, 1983.

*John Calvin was a child when Luther wrote his 95 Theses. He was, with respect to the Reformation, a Johnny-come-lately with his own peculiar twist (albeit derived in part from Augustine) that became represented by TULIP.

2. Calvinism = Christianity
a. "The doctrines of grace (Total depravity, Unconditional election, Limited atonement, Irresistible grace, Perseverance of the saints) are the warp and woof of the biblical gospel cherished by so many saints for centuries." John Piper, TULIP, The Pursuits of God's Glory in Salvation, 2000, back cover blurb.

b. "God's plan of salvation revealed the Scriptures consists of what is popularly known as the Five Points of Calvinism." and "Calvinism is pure biblical Christianity in its purest and clearest expression." Leonard J. Coppes, Are Five Points Enough? The Ten Points of Calvinism, 1980.

c. "If you do not know the Five Points of Calvinism, you do not know the gospel, but some perversion of it..." Fred Phelps, "The Five Points of Calvinism, The Berea Baptist Banner, Feb 5, 1990.

d. "I do not ask whether you believe Calvinism. It is possible you may not. But I believe you will before you enter heaven. I am persuaded that as God may have washed your hearts, He will wash your brains before you enter heaven." C.H. Spurgeon, Autobiography of Charles H. Spurgeon, n.d., American Baptist Society.

e. "We believe with the great Baptist preacher, Charles Haddon Spurgeon, that Calvinism is just another name for Christianity." John H. Gerstner, Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth: A Critique of Dispensationalism, 1991.

f. "We hold and assert again and again that the truth which Calvin preached was the very truth which the apostle Paul had long before written in his inspired epistles, and which is most clearly revealed in the discourses of our blessed Lord Himself." C.H. Spurgeon, Autobiography of Charles H. Spurgeon

g. "Calvinism is evangelicalism in its purest and only stable expression." B.B. Warfield, Calvin and Augustine, ed. Samuel G. Craig, 1956.

h. "Calvinism is the Gospel and to teach Calvinism is in fact to preach the Gospel." Arthur C. Custance, The Sovereignty of Grace, 1979.


2,828 posted on 02/02/2011 8:28:04 AM PST by aruanan
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