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HD made an error as an inanimate object cannot be infallible, but it can be inerrant (which the Bible is)

Quite frankly, I don't give two hoots what the Church has stated in writing. Shall we go back to the 4th Lateran Council of 1215 and discuss the Catholics obligations of marching to the Holy Lands? This is a pat answer of Catholics-it's in writing.

You seem far more eager to say that I made an error when I assert that Catholics no longer believe in the infallibility of scripture than you are to correct Mark's assertions that the scriptures are not infallible. Mark is not alone and it's not the first I've encountered this. There are many Catholics on this site that do not believe in the inerrant word of God. If this is representative of Catholics in the Church today, which given writings I have read, I'll stand by my statement.

Having Catholics post to me the scriptures are not infallible and then for you to turn right around and tell me that I don't know Church teachings because the Church states they are infallible is a bit disingenuous. You're talking to the wrong person.

What the Church has stated in writing is what The Church believes. Anything else is hearsay. To take what a person on the street says and extrapolate that to what everyone of his religious group believes is silly.

You did make an error.

Prove your statement " Mark is not alone and it's not the first I've encountered this" --> I've already told you the Bible is inerrant to me and I've already shown you official Church doctrine on the same.

in fact, prove that Mark denies the inerrancy --> he has not said this. If you read his post 2093 which you referred, he points out that it is not fallible/infallible -- no inanimate object is.

Even more specifically, Heb 4

Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts.

This needs to be read not as random verses.

Scripture cannot be fallible or infallible --> as Mark said.

Scripture IS inerrant, i.e. without error.

SCripture does not make decisions, the ones reading/interpreting it make the decisions. Only a decision making living entity can be fallible or infallible.

do you understand the differences in a word?

You and I are fallible, but we are not errant.

A book by C.S. Lewis IS errant but not fallible

The Scriptures are INERRANT.

You seem far more eager to say that I made an error when I assert that Catholics no longer believe in the infallibility of scripture than you are to correct Mark's assertions that the scriptures are not infallible. Mark is not alone and it's not the first I've encountered this. There are many Catholics on this site that do not believe in the inerrant word of God. If this is representative of Catholics in the Church today, which given writings I have read, I'll stand by my statement.

Having Catholics post to me the scriptures are not infallible and then for you to turn right around and tell me that I don't know Church teachings because the Church states they are infallible is a bit disingenuous. You're talking to the wrong person.

Catholics sure sing a different tune when it comes to using Scripture to support their favorite doctrines, such as the papacy, apostolic succession, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the priesthood, works based salvation, etc.

I find it ironic and hypocritical to claim that Scripture is not infallible or inerrant and then turn around and appeal to those very Scriptures top give the Roman Catholic church its authority.

Only if Scripture is infallible and inerrant, can it give the Catholic church its absolute authority, as it claims.

If the Catholic church *gave* us Scripture, as it claims, then its authority is based only on hearsay. It claiming to be authoritative with no legitimate basis for that authority is meaningless.

Is the church built on a rock or sand?

Let's see, you say you would believe a Times excerpted article: "another article Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible."

This is after I gave you adequate links from Catholic doctrine that we believe scripture to be inerrant and you reply that "Quite frankly, I don't give two hoots what the Church has stated in writing"