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If it is God's will for someone to lose or gain faith, my opinions cannot thwart his will; otherwise God's will is for naught, and men save themselves because they “choose” to believe. Take your pick.

Matthew 26:24

Mark 14:21

Luke 22:22

and

Matthew 18:6

Mark 9:42

Luke 17:2

Take your own pick.

2,333 posted on 01/31/2011 5:10:49 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)

To: grey_whiskers

thew 26:24...Mark 14:21...Luke 22:22

The topic was not apostasy but who determines faith, God or man.

Do you think Judas has a "choice"? LOL!

and Matthew 18:6...Mark 9:42...Luke 17:2

It is debatable what the writers mean by σκανδαλίζω (scandalizo), the Greek word which is found in those verses. The KJV says "offend" rather than [make them] "stumble".

At any rate, obviously the synoptic writers had a different opinion from Paul who said "So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy."[Romans 9:16], fwiw.

2,383 posted on 01/31/2011 9:12:17 PM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit....give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- pagan prayer)

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