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To: Cronos; caww
Actually, Kosta -- lambs were not sacred in egypt but the ram was -- a significant difference

Some people are disputing it, fwiw. But one thing is clear: the Passover lamb was not killed to atone for anyone's sins. The Jews use a goat for that purpose and that happens on Yom Kippur, which is nowhere near the Passover.

Again, animal sin offerings were for involuntary sins only, which is a big fly in the Christian ointment.

As for the Tanakh, the book of Isaiah which is found in the oldest known Tanakh (9th century AD, Moscow), and all subsequent copies of it, agree fully with the Qumran version of Isaiah.

2,279 posted on 01/31/2011 7:03:44 AM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit....give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- pagan prayer)
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To: kosta50; caww

Some may dispute whether a lamb or a ram, but all depictions on Egyptian imagery, pyramids etc. are of a ram, with horns. There is no sacred lamb in Egyptian imagery, nor in the egyptian religion.


2,281 posted on 01/31/2011 7:14:43 AM PST by Cronos
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To: kosta50; caww
kosta:
More importantly, Christianity literally turned some OT stories upside down. .... The lamb was clearly not killed to "atone" for any iniquities, as the Christians teach."
The Church does not teach that the lamb was killed during Passover to atone for any iniquities.

The first indication is by John the Baptist (John 1:29) who calls Jesus the lamb of God to take away the sins of the world.

The more important imagery is the lamb whose death and whose blood provided the seal of a covenant. Just as the Israelites ate the lamb as a seal of the old covenant, we too must eat the lamb of God (Jesus's body in the Eucharist) as the seal of the new covenant

The linking of atonement to the lamb is not taken in the context of the lamb as in Passover, rather the linkage of the lamb sacrifice is as the seal of a covenant
2,283 posted on 01/31/2011 7:23:57 AM PST by Cronos
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To: kosta50; caww
kosta:


Likewise, the shedding of the blood for atonement applied only for unintentional sins. In Judaism the sins of willful commission could not be atoned by animal sacrifice, but only through repentance. Obviously the Christians "corrected" that too!
Lev 5:1-4 describes sacrifices for wilful sins.

Also, the sacrifice of Christ IS for unwitting sin (Adam's) -- repentence is still necessary in the Christian world for our non-venial sins. We are not Calvinists to believe that we should not repent.
2,286 posted on 01/31/2011 7:33:19 AM PST by Cronos
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kosta:
Besides, the sacrificial animal had to be killed on the altar, and its blood sprinkled. Crucifixion was no altar sacrifice and Jesus bleeding all over the place from Roman torture and being nailed to the cross was hardly ritual "sprinkling.
The altar sacrifice imagery is what we see in Revelation, more as a view from heaven, or a "higher altar". Ritual "sprinkling" is explained more as the way in which the Eucharist is sprinkled throughout the world, since the Eucharist IS the self-same ONE-time sacrifice and Christ's blood is sprinkled as in spread throughout by the effectiveness of the Eucharist.
2,288 posted on 01/31/2011 7:37:56 AM PST by Cronos
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