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To: spirited irish; betty boop; kosta50; Alamo-Girl; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; YHAOS; metmom; ...
kosta has confused the right use of free will (to accept salvation) with the fatally wrong use of free will (to reject salvation)

Amen. If one truly has the choices of heaven and hell standing before them, what choice would they make? Once we see the light we will never want the darkness.

2,259 posted on 01/31/2011 5:25:30 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; betty boop; Alamo-Girl

snip: If one truly has the choices of heaven and hell standing before them, what choice would they make? Once we see the light we will never want the darkness.

Spirited: Those who freely choose the Light of Jesus Christ cannot empathize with those who freely reject Heaven, thereby willfully condemning themselves to Hell. There can be no meeting of minds (empathy) between the former and the latter.

Dostoevsky noted that there are those whose will (Pride of Mind, Flesh, Life) is so terrible as to be satanic. How did Dostoevsky know this to be true? Because he was a self-confessed terrible-willed man, but he sought spiritual remedy through Jesus Christ.

CS Lewis understood this to be the case as well, which is why he said that the gate to Hell will be slammed and locked from the inside.

No, I cannot empathize with such a mind, and I thank God that I cannot.


2,275 posted on 01/31/2011 6:44:07 AM PST by spirited irish
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To: HarleyD
Amen. If one truly has the choices of heaven and hell standing before them, what choice would they make? Once we see the light we will never want the darkness.

If that is true, then why did satan and 1/3 of all the angels choose to reign in hell rather than serve in Heaven?

2,280 posted on 01/31/2011 7:13:42 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: HarleyD
If one truly has the choices of heaven and hell standing before them, what choice would they make?

It's not really a choice is it? Choosing between all good and all bad is not a choice. If there is no choice there is no free will decision either. Your argument is only a disguised Pascal Wager's argument, which says to the effect: might as well believe just to be on the safe side.

No one sane will consciously choose all bad when there is all good to choose as well. Your argument fails. You are Calvinist and your Calvinist religion says that God predestined everyone, before they even existed, whether they will believe or not.

Therefore, here too, your argument of freely choosing Christ falls flat on its face, logically speaking; in other words, the decision was made for you.

Christianity says that faith is salvation and only God can save. Therefore only God can give you faith if he wants to see you saved. You do nothing. You don't give yourself faith; you don;t save yourself by it; you don't earn it. So, where is the "free" choice?

2,319 posted on 01/31/2011 1:14:42 PM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit....give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- pagan prayer)
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To: HarleyD
Once we see the light we will never want the darkness.

Indeed. Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

2,358 posted on 01/31/2011 7:47:24 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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