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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Quix
Actually, quite incorrect statement -- the the Lutheran, Anglican, Pentecostal view is NOT double-predestination.

Only the followers of Calvin believe in the idea that God pre-damns people to hell. No other Protestant philosophy believes that.

If you ask Quix -- do you believe that God preordains certain people to go to hell?
2,158 posted on 01/30/2011 2:04:43 PM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos; Quix; HarleyD; metmom; RnMomof7; Gamecock
Traditional Lutherans and Anglicans do indeed believe in double predestination.

Like the rest of the secular world, the more liberal the church, the less likely they will be to understand and embrace the doctrine of God's election.

For your education, here is an excellent article on Luther's embrace of the doctrine of double predestination...

DOUBLE OF NOTHING:
MARTIN LUTHER'S DOCTRINE OF PREDESTINATION

But as has been said dozens of times, a belief in predestination is not a requirement for salvation. The only requirement for salvation is God's grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.

There is enormous comfort and assurance in believing the words of Christ -- "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you"

2,166 posted on 01/30/2011 2:36:28 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Cronos

Walter Martin’s assertioin was that . . .

God seemes to preordain some folks to Heaven. Such as John The Baptist.

He did not believe He preordained anyone to hell.

I think that’s a pretty Biblical perspective.

That sounds like the God I know.


2,169 posted on 01/30/2011 4:00:18 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Cronos

Even amongst Calvinists, double-predestination is not always an accepted doctrine. IMHO, it was presumed and read into Scripture by Beza in the years immediately after the death of Calvin. IMHO, it isn’t Scriptural.


2,205 posted on 01/30/2011 10:17:31 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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