And they're different from you and I just how?
Do you think that any other group of people God picked would have done better?
Adam and Eve were created perfect and sinless. They were in the perfect, uncorrupted environment, walked with God in the cool of the day, and STILL chose to turn their backs on Him. It sounds like they were pretty self-indulgent to me.
Not to mention, that there isn't any organized religion, Catholicism included, that isn't filled with fickle self-indulgent people.
You don't suppose that it's simply because of human nature instead of the particular group they are, now do you?
Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear sister in Christ!
And they're different from you and I just how? Do you think that any other group of people God picked would have done better?
If you or I were parked at the foot of Mount Sinai with a bunch of our own, and Moses actually walked up the mountain to meet Almighty God, would you have built yourself a golden calf god to amuse yourself until he returned?
Adam and Eve were created perfect and sinless. They were in the perfect, uncorrupted environment, walked with God in the cool of the day, and STILL chose to turn their backs on Him. It sounds like they were pretty self-indulgent to me.
If they were perfect, how could they sin?
Not to mention, that there isn't any organized religion, Catholicism included, that isn't filled with fickle self-indulgent people. You don't suppose that it's simply because of human nature instead of the particular group they are, now do you?
There are a number of societies much more aligned and disciplined than OT Jewry. Look at the Japanese, for instance.
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God picked a really fickle bunch of the self indulgent, didn't He?
I don't see the fruit in this line of reasoning for any party here.
Deuteronomy 4:37 pretty much explains why God chose who He did: "And because he loved thy fathers, therefore He chose their seed after them, and brought thee out in His sight with His mighty power out of Egypt"
Or a fuller picture stated a few chapters later:
Deuteronomy 7:6-8 "For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth. The Lord did not set His love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any other people, for you were the least of all peoples; but because the Lord loves you, and because He would keep the oath which He swore to your fathers, the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you from the house of bondage, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
Granted, the Jews were and still are a bunch of Reprobates, earning their condemnation in spades because they were more wicked than Nineveh (Mt 12:41), Ethiopia (v42) and Tyre and Sidon (11:20-21). The greatest enemies of the Church has always been the Jews, and throughout their existence they have always had a remarkable talent for talking themselves into ovens.
When God was giving the world an analogy to how rebellious and idolatrous the sons of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were, we got the all-to-vivid imagery of Hosea's Turbo-Slut wife, Gomer. Much of the characterization of Israel as a whore would make the must licentious and promiscuous porn star look downright chaste in comparison.
I would elaborate further but I don't need to be falsely labeled as an "anti-semite" by the weak minded in FR.
On the other hand, the Jewish people are overrepresented in the professions, in the patent offices, and among the financially well-to-do. When I need to have something done right, and cost isn't a factor, I always seem to end up at the office of someone of ethnic Jewish heritage - which is fine. For a people practically universally hated throughout the world, they do remarkably well.
Perhaps one could sum it up by saying, that generally speaking Jews are overachievers, unfortunately one all to common manifestation of their overachievement is in their opposition and hatred of Jesus Christ and His Church.
How this works out ultimately in God's plan? I defer to Deuteronomy 29:29 "The secret things belong to the LORD our God...". One thing is for certain, if God was looking for the most stubborn and rebellious people and least deserving people to love, He surely chose the right group to best exhibit His forbearance, love, patience and mercy.
The take-away from this is - no matter how rotten we are, no matter how depraved, wicked and sinful as individuals we can be, our LORD's Grace can still find us and save us from the Wrath to Come.