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To: Cronos
So, what is the percentage of conviction rate of pastors in your group who have molested children? How many have been removed?

Wait. I thought you were turning to God - that's the way you deal w/the problem. Is there a new law now that you should go around polling others outside the CC - sorta of 'take the heat' off the CC? Is that #2 after you are finished with #1 turning to God?

Or is it you want to leave the RCC and looking for one who follows God's Word only.
1,259 posted on 01/19/2011 11:55:12 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
You seriously did not read, did you?

The job of the flock is to follow The Good shepherd, Christ, to focus on Him, not on the sub-shepherds who have not one level of the ability of The Shepherd. Yet, the sheep are not to huddle away and form their own flocks with their own leaders because those sheep without shepherds are prone to wolves (from J Smith to Ellen G White to the Taize movement etc).

The focus is to be always on The Shepherd, not on the sub-shepherds/pastors

this is related to the pastoral functions and teachings of Christ. We are not like the Northern tribes who broke away. No, the tribe of Judah stayed irrespective of the bad kings because their focus was on God. Kings, High priests, priests may come and go, but God remains and one focuses on God, not on the frail tools.

You can of course, leave your group (I remember that your group says that people like the Apostles etc. were not blessed as they saw Christ) and become Christian. Do note that I am not a member of the RavingCalvinistCult and I'm in the Church that not only follows God's Word but lives it during the Mass
Nearly everything we say at mass has its roots in Sacred Scripture
Right from the priest's greeting In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. (Matt. 28:19)

through to the pentitential rite

I confess to almighty God, and to you my brothers and sisters, that I have sinned through my own fault. (Jas. 5:16) In my thoughts and in my words, (Rom. 12:16) In what I have done and what I have failed to do; (Jas 3:6) and I ask the Blessed Virgin Mary, all the angel and saints, and you, my brothers and sisters, to pray for me to the Lord our God. (1 Thess 5:25)

and of course the readings from the OT, NT, right through to the profession of faith

We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, (Gen 14:19) of all that is seen and unseen. (Col 1:16) We believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, (Luke 1:35) eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God, begotten not made, one in being with the Father. (Heb 1:3) Through him all things were made. (John 1:2-3) For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven: (John 3:13) by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary, (Matt 1:18) and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, (John 19:16) he suffered, died and was buried. On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures. (1 Cor 15:3-4) He ascended into heaven (Luke 24:51) and is seated at the right hand of the Father. (Col 3:1) He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead (2 Tim 4:1) and his kingdom will have no end. (Luke 1:33) We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of Life, (Acts 2:17) who proceeds from the Father and the Son. (John 14:16) With the Father and Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the prophets. (1 Peter 1:10-11) We believe in one holy, catholic and apostolic Church. (Rom 12:5) We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. (Acts 2:38) We look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. (Rom 6:5) Amen

And ending with Thanks be to God. (2 Cor 9:15)

1,261 posted on 01/20/2011 12:20:03 AM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: presently no screen name

What’s your church? Let’s compare, legitimately. If your church is so great, compared to Catholics, what is it? Let’s find out if your beliefs are so much better that nobody sins in your church.


1,281 posted on 01/20/2011 4:10:45 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: presently no screen name
Wait. I thought you were turning to God - that's the way you deal w/the problem. Is there a new law now that you should go around polling others outside the CC - sorta of 'take the heat' off the CC? Is that #2 after you are finished with #1 turning to God?

pwnd......

1,288 posted on 01/20/2011 5:55:36 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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