[Lee N. Field]

I don't have the link, but I have asked Quix if he was a trinitarian before and he answered yes and that he acknowledged the message in the Nicene Creed.

If you follow the thread at the link provided (which may or may not work. FR's back end seemed a bit wonky yesterday), you'll note that certain parties professed trinitarian belief only after many pages of the usual bluster. The initial cause of my asking was the approval by certain parties of a mid-20th century faith healer who wasn't trinitarian.

Like pulling teeth, it was.

The Nicene Creed makes a handy filter. Anybody who can't affirm it beyond the pale, not to be looked to. To be prayed for but not with.

I'm about ready to bail on this thread. Worst signal to noise ratio and most interventions by the Religion Moderator, I've seen in a while, going unproductively in too many different directions. Ad hominem, ad infinitum. What was this thread about, anyway???

[Cronos]

The Nicene Creed makes a handy filter. Anybody who can't affirm it beyond the pale, not to be looked to. To be prayed for but not with.

I agree. It's a very good filter. That's why I mostly want to make sure that both me and the other guy/lady believe in this before we get into a debate, or it's like two guys arguing about calculus and not agreeing that 1+1 = 2.

Also, it is kinda sad that a post that has nothing to do with Catholicism (the Church doesn't have any doctrine on the rapture) degenerated into the standard bash -- we have enough of those threads already! This started off as a very interesting post -- the first 5 posts or so, especially to one such as me who hasn't got any defined beliefs on this one way or the other, so reading the civil argument between TC and CB was very, very informative.

Ok, I'll ignore the met from now on on this thread, but I'm having a very interesting history chat with cyc :-P

[metmom]

Getting a courtesy ping out of Catholics when talking about non-Catholics is like pulling teeth....

Sheesh.