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To: Cronos; Religion Moderator; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
RM, with due respect, oneLord did NOT ask for personal information. He asked in 784......

There are more ways than one to get information out of people. Just like you're doing in posts 985, 989, 996, 997 and this one. I though you had been warned about that. Perhaps I was mistaken.

This is a religion forum and it is perfectly natural to ask someone where they stand on a religious point. For example, to ask metmom on her stand on infant baptism makes sense in a debate ON infant baptism. To ask her her stand on the Trinity makes sense in any discussion on the Trinitarian nature of Christ.

There's a difference between ASKING for information and PRESUMING information and asking someone to deny or confirm it. It falls into the category of the *Have you stopped beating your wife yet?* kind of question.

My silence on an issue does not mean I either agree or disagree. I see presuming my answer based on my *silence* is an underhanded way of trying to manipulate information out of me. Finding out information by the process of elimination (as I see this as being) rather than asking would IMO, qualify as finessing the guidelines. I will not play those games.

One is an honest inquiry, the other taints the image others have of that person for someone who is not familiar with the discussions. I've made my positions very clear in the past. A lurker would not necessarily know that and come to erroneous conclusions about what I believe. It leads to confusion and misunderstanding.

To ask her her stand on the Trinity makes sense in any discussion on the Trinitarian nature of Christ.

If that were the what the discussion were about in the first place, yeah. However, to throw it in to the mix for NO good reason makes it a red herring and of suspicious motive.

I am not the only one on the receiving end of that kind of behavior, hence the courtesy ping to others who have been involved.

As for said mentioned poster, to ping or not to ping, that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler to ping out of courtesy or not to ping as per RM's instructions......

I'll let the RM decide.

1,004 posted on 01/19/2011 5:26:31 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Asking for personal information?
Post 985, Metmom's group is not Christian. The starting point is seeing what one has or has not in common. If a group denies the basic dogmas of Christian faith, then debating details with a member of said group is futile. Now, if you want to see "Inquisitional Fervour", you just have to pick up some of said poster's post calling us Christians names tossed in with every allegation. The posts smack of hatred.
No asking for personal info here

Post 989 --> question to RM, no question to you and not asking you or the RM for any personal information

Post 996, --> let's see, the original post of yours made incorrect statements about the history and you were then asked "What about the history of your group? The PCA, LCMS, etc have their catechisms that define what they believe, but your groups? --> No asking for personal info here. I didn't ask for your personal history but for your group's history AND beliefs. Even the Jehovah's witnesses have their beliefs available to peruse.

Post 997 --> question to you on whether you THINK that the church went into apostasy in the 1st century -- no personal information here. I'm asking you what you t h i n k, not for any personal information
Now, asking a person if you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord, God and Savior is not asking for personal information.

Especially not on a RELIGION FORUM where it makes sense to ask Do you believe in a Triune God? Do you believe in ONE God, the Father the Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth, of all that is seen and unseen?

Do you believe in ONE Lord, Jesus Christ, only begotten Son of God. God from God. Light from Light. True God from True God. Begotten not made. Of ONE Being with the Father. Through whom all things were made

Do you believe in the Holy SPirit, the Lord and giver of life, who is of ONe being with the FAther and the Son?

These are simple questions that have been asked of you -- none are seeking your personal information, no questions on name, address, gender, age. Rather, like in a Religion forum, the question is on what you believe..

To ask you your stand on the Trinity makes sense as a base point in any discussion on the Trinitarian nature of Christ. If a person denies the divinity of Christ and the nature of the Trinity, it is no point discussing further subtle nuances that are based on acceptance of the Trinity.

Oh and really, I support non-Trinitarians expressing their religious beliefs on the Trinity, I even support a non-Christian grouptalking about their beliefs or arguing with us Christians on why we believe Christ is divine or not -- so if anyone from your group wishes to argue on these point, fine, in a civilised way, we should listen to you argue civilly. But if a non-Christian argues on Christological matters, that makes as much sense as a Christian arguing with Jews on Hasidic versus other forms of Judaism

1,011 posted on 01/19/2011 6:00:39 AM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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