Posted on 01/14/2011 5:57:52 PM PST by topcat54
Evangelical book catalogs promote books such as Planet Earth: The Final Chapter, The Great Escape, and the Left Behind series. Bumper stickers warn us that the vehicle’s occupants may disappear at any moment. It is clear that there is a preoccupation with the idea of a secret rapture. Perhaps this has become more pronounced recently due to the expectation of a new millennium and the fears regarding potential Y2K problems. Perhaps psychologically people are especially receptive to the idea of an imminent, secret rapture at the present time. Additionally, many Christians are not aware that any other position relative to the second coming of Jesus Christ exists. Even in Reformed circles there are numerous people reading these books. Many of these people are unaware that this viewpoint conflicts with Scripture and Reformed Theology.
(Excerpt) Read more at reformed.org ...
**Was there a special at WalMart on brain enhancement?**
Maybe a trade-in is going on - trade in your catechism for God’s Word.
Speaking of God’s Word - did you see wmfights’ thread?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2661195/posts
Ironic, isn’t it?
It looks like Catholics rate her above Jesus in sinlessness.
In the same sense as once baptized,always baptized.
Thank you! I hadn’t seen that yet.
Praise God for how he’s working there.
Stop shouting. It only proves you have big print. ;-)
“Oddly, as well, the Catholic Supreme Justices do not, as compared to their Protestant brethren. Compare the voting record of the current five Catholics (including the liberal one) to the record of Protestants on the bench over the last 100 years.”
Actually, why don’t you?
Hoss
Exactly. 100% Catholics here believe Mary was sinless.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
We cannot trust Mother, Father
even our own selves
sufficiently, if at all . . .
CHRIST ALONE.
PRAISE GOD!
HIS WORD DOES NOT RETURN VOID!
In contrast to tanker loads of organizational documents and pontifications.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2347476/posts
Besides . . . some things are worth forceful declarations.
Now that’s church, His Church/His Body.
“And He said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and PREACH THE GOSPEL to every creature.”
HIS WORD DOES NOT RETURN VOID!
AMEN!! It’s ALIVE and ACTIVE.
Correct...there is a very keen sense we want to please Him that was not there before, when you simply wanted to do the right thing. Now your heart and mind is in it in a whole new way. You also realize the full spectrum of what you were forgiven for...saved from...and the great price He paid for that as you begin reading more and more of the scriptures...and you see things in scripture you never understood before... It really is wonderful beyond measure!
I think people do think they are doing “the right thing”...but it is not the same at all when He’s living His life thru you.
Your 1st charge to me, which was response to one by metmom, and who does not represent the faith which would staff PP, was a broad one (”you guys”, which you then restricted to clergy. However, while it is certain a few examples of clergy may be found, that would not substantiate the charge of “you guys” in any meaningful way. And for your charge to be pertinent, it should be evidence of the manner of faith supported by those who oppose you here. The liberal churches are manifestly far from historical Protestant faith, in both their position on the Bible and thus their moral values.
And as implicit in your charge was the assertion that Rome promotes just the opposite of the faith which posters such as metmom is known to defend, i provided abundant research which shows that large percentage of laity and significant amounts or priests disagree with RC teaching on abortion, and which includes pro-choice nuns.
However, you now demand actual examples of priest sanctioning abortion, but which is not necessary to establish that Rome fosters much the opposite of what she officially says. It is also an unreasonable demand of proof, as to assist in getting abortion means the priests job, as a nun found one. Moreover, one need not actually assist in a crime to be culpable of it, and by not actively opposing a sin one can be complicit in it.
As for any specific examples, without doing further research, you do have men like Fr. Raymond Gravel, a priest in the Diocese of Joliette in Quebec, and former a homosexual prostitute, who was forced out of federal politics by the Vatican and has frequently criticized the Catholic Church’s stands against abortion and homosexuality. http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2009/apr/09042101
And Daniel C. Maguire is a Catholic Theologian and Professor of Moral Theology at Marquette University. http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0202-20.htm
And 40 priests in Brazil who openly supported a mayoral candidate is an ardent supporter of abortion rights, homosexual unions and euthanasia. http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/brazilian_archdiocese_rejects_campaign_by_proabortion_priests/
And liberal priests in the Chicago archdiocese are urging Cardinal Francis George to roll back reforms of the local Catholic Campaign for Human Development, such as Father Larry Dowling, chairman of the Illinois Center for violence prevention, a group that includes Planned Parenthood in its “after-school alliance” and has links to groups that promote legal abortion and gay rights. http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=8184
As for casting aspersions upon the source, which was not unexpected, if you had looked you would have seen that they are carefully sourced from major research orgs, and that there is an overall consistency to them, and such are sometimes cited by Catholic orgs themselves.
One more here:
When asked to consider the statement “abortion should be legal and solely up to the woman to decide,” 51 percent of non-Hispanic self-described Catholics agreed. Traditionalist Catholics disagreed with the statement 71 to 21 percent, centrist Catholics agreed 54 to 40 percent, and modernist Catholics agreed 80-16 percent. About 47 percent of Latino Catholics agreed with the statement, while only 35 percent disagreed. http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/survey_finds_some_catholics_looking_for_a_political_home/
That must suffice for now. Good night all
And if you read the commentary in the official RC Bible for America, you would see much liberalism.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out....
....”This means that (Catholic Hospital) Caritas will own and operate a facility where sterilizations are performed and abortifacient contraceptive services are provided....”
I think it’s about what I can stomach to read a lot of the RCC outrageousness hereon.
This is another incredible statistic.
1. I'm shocked that only 56% of Assembly of God asserted that. That MUST be a function of newer younger members more influenced by the culture.
The AoG congregations I've been a part of 99.99% of the congregants have asserted that. And, I think a number of the one's I'm aware of currently would have a higher percentage of congregants asserting that than 56%. Mystifying.
I know a head AoG Pastor in Lousiana. There's no way he'd let a Pastor under his care and influence in that state get away with teaching anything different about satan being a real character.
Nevertheless, 17% for RC's believing such is even more shocking.
The haughtiness of a number of RC's hereon castigating Dr E and I as being tools of satan becomes hilarious in terms of this statistic. Evidently 83% of their RC cohorts would be just as convinced that Dr E and I were tools of the Pillsbury Doughboy!
24/7/365 Proddys get hereon this bunch of hot fetid air constantly about how monolithically in agreement, unified, homogeneous, pristinely sanctified, in unity for the whole of the [1600] VAIWSOTARM INSTITUTION'S existence . . . yada yada yada the RCC is on a list of theological dogma, issues.
Proddys have, for a few years now, asserted on FR that such is simply NOT THE REALITY. NOT THE CASE. . . . THAT such brazenly untrue assertions are THOROUGHLY INACCURATE, WRONG, FALSE.
As usualy, we are then characterized as hateful, lying, ignorant etc.
Yet, once again, solid factual data from reliable surveys indicates that the Proddys have been right all along. The Vatican Alice In Wonderland School Of Theology And Reality Mangling is ANYTHING BUT homogeneous in its theology and certainly in its public pronouncements and practices of same. Perhaps most outrageously, the vast majority of the folks in the pew are a LONG ways from the more conservative elements of the very heterodox hierarchy.
This statistic is merely yet more proof of such sad facts.
I was already coming to the reluctant conclusion that most of the RCC pontificators on FR were dreadfully ignorant of their own church; of reality; of history and of Scripture . . . and tend to therefore write far more out of their on extremely narrow biases, tunnel vision, pseudo-Mary-aura'd-farcical-fantasies and the like.
Now, I'm being pushed somewhat reluctantly to the perspective and conviction that most of them REALLY ARE THOROUGHLY OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY . . . PARTICULARLY about their own RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION.
Obviously, in their terms, 80% or so of the self-identified Roman Catholics have LEFT MOTHER CHURCH as well--in all but name and social conventions only.
Yet, somehow it's the Proddys who are ignorant and outside the fold.
What an outrageous farce. Obviously, by the time they cleaned up their own house, they wouldn't have much energy or time left to be so arrogant toward Proddys.
Right on, Quix!
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