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The Not So Secret Rapture
reformed.org ^ | W. Fred Rice

Posted on 01/14/2011 5:57:52 PM PST by topcat54

Evangelical book catalogs promote books such as Planet Earth: The Final Chapter, The Great Escape, and the Left Behind series. Bumper stickers warn us that the vehicle’s occupants may disappear at any moment. It is clear that there is a preoccupation with the idea of a secret rapture. Perhaps this has become more pronounced recently due to the expectation of a new millennium and the fears regarding potential Y2K problems. Perhaps psychologically people are especially receptive to the idea of an imminent, secret rapture at the present time. Additionally, many Christians are not aware that any other position relative to the second coming of Jesus Christ exists. Even in Reformed circles there are numerous people reading these books. Many of these people are unaware that this viewpoint conflicts with Scripture and Reformed Theology.

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TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: crusades; endtimes; eschatology; rapture
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To: metmom

Here’s a few more of the Catholic abortion enablers.

“How Support for Abortion Became Kennedy Dogma

online.wsj.com/.../SB123086375678148323.html “


1,621 posted on 01/21/2011 8:43:38 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Judith Anne
Yes, it is amazing. Evidently, in some people's books, the ONLY sinners are Catholics. What are those people going to say when they stand before God?

That's the point. They claim:

a) they won't stand before God at all because they are saved from before the creation of the universe; or

b) they will stand before Jesus to be Judged by Jesus upon what Jesus did and therefore get a free pass; or

c) they will be Raptured away into Heaven before anyone is the wiser.

1,622 posted on 01/21/2011 8:52:34 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: boatbums

I suppose that you could have hordes of hoarders. Otherwise known as the Scots... :)


1,623 posted on 01/21/2011 8:53:40 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: boatbums
I think H - E - double matchsticks should freeze over before Metmom apologizes to you.

From posting history, it probably will.

The post you made was in response to one Quix made to metmom - backtrack it yourself if you don't believe me - so she has every right to comment.

How far back should one go in order to ensure that no feelings are hurt?

As does ANYONE else on this forum since it is OPEN thread. The volume of character I am hearing from your silly diatribe speaks plenty about you.

Oh, I think that my character is quite well understood here on FR already.

1,624 posted on 01/21/2011 8:56:20 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: metmom
I have posted what I believe and I provided a link to a document that shows what I believe. However, if you don't like it, there's not much I can do about that.

You didn't say document. You said thread.

Provide the links.

Why? When confronted by your posts, you either deny or refuse to comment on them.

I most certainly was. You can go back and follow through the conversations.

Yeah, yeah, everything is about you.

I get called a coward and *I* am expected to apologize? In your dreams.

Show that I called you a coward.

1,625 posted on 01/21/2011 8:59:09 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: MarkBsnr; boatbums; Quix

Nobody’s feelings got hurt.

How far back do you have to go?

You responded to Quix. Look who HE commented to.

That wasn’t so hard, now was it.


1,626 posted on 01/21/2011 8:59:47 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MarkBsnr; boatbums; Quix
From posting history, it probably will.

That's correct, but only because I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't do anything to apologize FOR.

1,627 posted on 01/21/2011 9:01:34 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MarkBsnr; boatbums; Quix
Oh, I think that my character is quite well understood here on FR already.

Can't deny that.

1,628 posted on 01/21/2011 9:02:32 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MarkBsnr; boatbums; Quix
Yeah, yeah, everything is about you.

Then why are you the one demanding an apology?

1,629 posted on 01/21/2011 9:03:49 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: daniel1212
I can almost guarantee that no one of evangelical faith works at Planned Parentood, while RCs are overall more liberal than evangelicals

Why are you changing the yardsticks? I referred to Protestants. Tiller the Killer was Baptist and a functionary of his church, for instance. Can you show me a priest or deacon of the Church that either provides abortions, or guides people into having them? Perhaps a survey of Planned Parenthood staff may be just the thing to settle this.

1,630 posted on 01/21/2011 9:04:06 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: MarkBsnr; Judith Anne; boatbums; metmom; Quix
My perspective is different:

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. - Colossians 3:3

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. – John 5:24

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. - Romans 8:9

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. – John 1:12-13

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. – Romans 8:38-39

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? - I Corinthians 6:19

But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. - John 10:26-28

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20

In other words, it has nothing to do with me and everything to do with Who God IS.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. - Revelation 1:8

To God be the glory, not man, never man.

1,631 posted on 01/21/2011 9:06:46 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: metmom
Which big name politicians are it who are the BIG abortion supporters that allow places like PP to operate legally in this country?

Could it be Pelosi? Kennedy? Kerry? Biden? Cantwell? Gillibrand? Schumer?

Sure. Any of them work for Planned Parenthood? Any of them active in the Church?

Besides, MB, you’re absolutely SURE of the religious affiliation of every abortion provider and worker?

Hitting a little close to home?

1,632 posted on 01/21/2011 9:07:08 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: MarkBsnr
Tiller was Lutheran.
1,633 posted on 01/21/2011 9:15:23 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: metmom
Nobody’s feelings got hurt.

That's nice.

How far back do you have to go?

Do you mean how far back you want me to go? You responded to Quix. Look who HE commented to.

I don't go back over the thread before I comment to somebody that I reply to on a regular basis.

That wasn’t so hard, now was it.

Apparently not.

1,634 posted on 01/21/2011 9:20:46 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: metmom
Then why are you the one demanding an apology?

See what I mean?

1,635 posted on 01/21/2011 9:21:29 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Alamo-Girl; MarkBsnr; Judith Anne; boatbums; Quix; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; ...

2 Corinthians 5:16-21

16From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer.

17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. 18All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation.

20Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. 21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.


1,636 posted on 01/21/2011 10:20:49 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Amen! Praise God!!!

Thank you so much for that beautiful Scripture, dear sister in Christ!

1,637 posted on 01/21/2011 10:51:11 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: MarkBsnr; metmom; Quix
unshun

some people will go to all ends to smear Baptists

shun

Wichita's Reformation Lutheran Church -- the church to which abortion provider George Tiller belonged and where he was killed Sunday -- has released a statement about his death.... Reformation Lutheran Church

1,638 posted on 01/21/2011 10:56:15 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Ya think?


1,639 posted on 01/21/2011 12:00:57 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I wonder “if an apology is forthcoming”


1,640 posted on 01/21/2011 12:23:38 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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