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To: Colofornian
 
 Joseph quotes Christ as telling him during the first vision that he "must join none of [the sects], for they were all wrong; . . . that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: 'they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness but deny the power thereof'"
(Joseph Smith—History 1:19).
 
 
No; he does NOT!!  Read it for yourself!


http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.” 
 
There is NO ONE called CHRIST in this bit of MORMON scripture; but two vague PERSONAGES, who are NEVER identified.
 
The only ID is a RELATIONAL one (if it were true).
 
Only ONE of the PERSONAGES spoke; and it WASN'T the so called 'christ' figure.
 


 
If they can't get the second line right in the article; it doesn't bode well for any OTHER accuracy ahead!

17 posted on 01/14/2011 2:08:39 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Good pick-up...Ryan Christensen...if you ever read this...please stop embellishing!

I mean here I was complimenting your forthrightness in an earlier post...and here Elsie pinpoints your inaccurate exaggeration.

But it does go to show how Mormons tend to "assume."

They assume that the supposed entities they've been told about -- the Father and Jesus -- appeared to Smith. But Smith doesn't name them at all in that portion of Joseph Smith - History.

Well, now y'all have a good glimpse of how Mormon "scholars" do "scholarly" things...they embellish...they exaggerate...even among the best of the forthright ones!

19 posted on 01/14/2011 2:25:12 PM PST by Colofornian ( Life isn't FAIR!)
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