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Latter-day Saints aren't Christians?
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Posted on 01/07/2011 2:21:27 PM PST by Paragon Defender

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To: Diamond

There’s nothing cordial about your reply, Diamond, sad to say. I’ve been a frequent participant on the FR RF. Perhaps you have at some point, too.

Regarding relevancy, maybe you could post the entire Book of Revelation. It’s 100% “relevant.” Or, you could post a long burgundy box with blurbs containing rote, repetitious prayers every single night and four times on Sunday.

Some view FR on the “comments” tab, and therefore see every reply. I actually enjoy seeing responses on all the various forums, particularly the RF. But, endless scrolling through excessively long replies is no way to win people over.

I suggest you post an excerpt with a link in the future, lest someone get the false impression that you’re less than polite and rather self-important.


141 posted on 01/08/2011 6:47:39 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: webboy45
The “triune” god is non-scriptural. In fact it’s pagan belief put to the church by a pagan emperor. Read Eusibius. He clearly says that at the nicene counsil (He was there) the Emperor dismissed the counsil and then after most had left he got together with certain selected counsil members and came up the triune part of the creed.

Gee, there is LOTS of un-sourced information there.

Please provide links..to sources that are NOT LDS. Thanks.

142 posted on 01/08/2011 6:49:08 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Don't enter a battfield with flowers for succor when surgeons are saving the lives of the wounded.)
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To: Diamond

I bookmarked this on the other thread, it is one of the best analysis I have seen on the topic.


143 posted on 01/08/2011 7:28:22 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Diamond

I bookmarked this on the other thread, it is one of the best analysis I have seen on the topic.


144 posted on 01/08/2011 7:40:28 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: RegulatorCountry; Diamond
Some view FR on the “comments” tab, and therefore see every reply. I actually enjoy seeing responses on all the various forums, particularly the RF. But, endless scrolling through excessively long replies is no way to win people over.

Hint: Set your "brevity" setting to "headers" instead of "text". It is very common to see long posts on the Religion Forum. Some even include numerous graphics along with the text. You never know whose eye will be caught by a random comment within a long post and have their life changed for eternity.

Thanks for posting that, Diamond.

145 posted on 01/08/2011 7:45:10 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Don't enter a battfield with flowers for succor when surgeons are saving the lives of the wounded.)
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To: Diamond; Elsie
Thank you so much for reposting that lengthy, accurate, well designed bank of data.

As to the immediate spittle cast your way for posting this material, you will recall how Peter lept to tell Jesus what He ought not do, and how Jesus responded. Again, thank you so much for the work in posting that.

And Elsie, use your decoder ring, I'm sending a few buckets of holy electrons so you don't run out:

Praise God from Whom all blessings flow

Praise Him all creatures here below,

Praise Him above, ye Heavenly hosts,

Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost

Aaaaah men

146 posted on 01/08/2011 7:54:06 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Diamond; Elsie
Thank you so much for reposting that lengthy, accurate, well designed bank of data.

As to the immediate spittle cast your way for posting this material, you will recall how Peter lept to tell Jesus what He ought not do, and how Jesus responded. Again, thank you so much for the work in posting that.

And Elsie, use your decoder ring, I'm sending a few buckets of holy electrons so you don't run out:

Praise God from Whom all blessings flow

Praise Him all creatures here below,

Praise Him above, ye Heavenly hosts,

Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost

Aaaaah men

147 posted on 01/08/2011 8:08:30 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: greyfoxx39

There is a difference between a detailed reply and the entire phone book, greyfoxx39. It’s actually a thread disruption tactic in some circles, known as a “data dump.” Why is an effective disruption tactic, among those who seek to do so? Because people tune out. It’s a counterproductive behavior.


148 posted on 01/08/2011 8:10:35 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: reaganaut

Luther’s original intent was to reform and not start a new church. I really believe if both Luther and the then Pope had the ability to look out in the hundreds of years since 1517, cooler heads would have prevailed and unity could have been maintained. Unfortunately, there is a gene in man that rebels against authority, so in the matters of Faith, once you deny there is a Divinely founded and protected Church, you in effect set yourself up to judge the Church and you become your own mini pope. What effect has this had? LDS, JW, SDA, CS, and every sort of sect. After all, if Luther, Calvin and Henry VIII can set up their own church, so can you, so can i, so can Joseph Smith. Jesus said there is one Church, the NT teaches the will of God is that Christians be one in belief and worship ( John 17, 1 Corinthians ) You say you believe in small (c) catholic church. what does that mean? If you won’t fellowship with me or worship with me, you either don’t believe Catholics are Christian or you believe in at least two churches. If you hold doctrines unknown until the 16th century, in what sense can you say you hold to the catholic (c) faith?
one example really gets to the heart of the matter, st ignatius wrote around 100ad ( st ignatius was personally taught the Faith by St John and was chosen to be the Bishop of Antioch because of his faithfulness to Christ )that the Gnostics abstained from the Eucharist since they did not believe it was the Body of Christ. There are many today who will not take the Eucharist because they deny it is the Body of Christ, yet they claim to believe in the one holy catholic apostolic church! i believe st ignatius learned the faith from st john and he laid hands on other men and so on and so on until the present day. There is a reason Jesus prayed that we all be one in John 17, so the world ( unbelievers ) may believe in Jesus. Why can’t we all see this whole concept of “denominations” and divisions are used by the cults and muslims against the Church?
note for the moderator, when i refer to “you” i am not referring to reaganaut, but it’s meant in a general way.


149 posted on 01/08/2011 8:14:06 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: reaganaut

care to share an example of a reformation doctrine that is supported by the Bible, the Church Fathers and opposed by the Catholic Church? Thanks.


150 posted on 01/08/2011 8:21:23 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: RegulatorCountry; Diamond; reaganaut; MHGinTN
It’s actually a thread disruption tactic in some circles

So is dragging the thread off topic by making another FReeper..or his post.. the focus. ;0)

151 posted on 01/08/2011 8:24:31 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Don't enter a battfield with flowers for succor when surgeons are saving the lives of the wounded.)
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To: Cisco Nix

I see a lot of Mormon articles posted here at FR. Why? I don’t understand. Who cares.
***It’s because PD posted this thread under caucus protection, in which the title was considered to be inflammatory by JimRob and it was a violation of caucus rules. So JimRob moved it to breaking news, and the mormons had to deal with their heresy out in the open.

Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2650662/posts

Now the FR mormon strategy seems to be throw lots&lotsa words around, knowing that very few Freepers have the time to read it all.


152 posted on 01/08/2011 8:30:21 AM PST by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kevmo
"it’s because PD.............."

Thank you for letting me know. I tried to find out earlier and what I received was not “Christian Hospitality”. Perhaps I could have chosen the words of my query more tactfully but I didn't deserve what I was subject to. Now I know, thank you. It gives me a whole new perspective on this Mormon thing and other things as well.

153 posted on 01/08/2011 9:54:32 AM PST by Cisco Nix (Real Conservatives stay sober and focused)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Vendome; greyfoxx39
...IT is the Body of Christ on earth and pillar of truth. this Church was to preach the Gospel throughout the ages, and the Holy Spirit was to guide IT into all truth and add to it all that will be saved. Jesus also clearly said the gates of hell will not prevail against IT, i.e. IT is not some mere human institution like the moose club, but a Divine Institution, which will be protected in order to accomplish the Father’s will for all time. If all of this is true, we must be able to find this Church in every century from the time of Jesus to the present.

IT? You sure like impersonalizing the Church a lot!

The true underlying Greek NT term for "church" = "called-out ONES" (ecclesia)...meaning the true church is...
...An organism, not an organization;
...flesh & blood -- not brick & mortar;
...the people as the Body of Christ and the Living Temple of the Holy Spirit -- not an institution

Here you've going on for post after post on a few threads this past week -- maybe even saying one or two things right that tends to get overlooked by Christians --and you keep saying that what you are stressing is historically Biblical.

Well, now you're not.

I don't see the Bible ANYWHERE label the Church of Jesus Christ as "institution";
Nor are living people an "it"...

So whoa on some of your finger-pointing 'til you can get your own descriptive act together!

154 posted on 01/08/2011 8:39:40 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; one Lord one faith one baptism; Vendome; greyfoxx39; MHGinTN

Popcorn!


155 posted on 01/08/2011 10:04:41 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Sola scriptura for one. There is even a fairly recent book on that specific topic.


156 posted on 01/08/2011 10:33:21 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

you, like the LDS, are bastardizing the definition of ‘church’ to make it a denomination.

Christ’s CHURCH encompasses ALL believers Catholic and Protestant.

God is not about ‘denominations’. And I am sure you will want to argue this point but I will not be responding after looking up your recent posting history and discovering a disturbing pattern.


157 posted on 01/08/2011 10:35:38 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Colofornian

BINGO!!


158 posted on 01/08/2011 10:36:56 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Diamond
Hey, I'm just your humble servant trying to emulate you!:^)

Yo momma told you to stay AWAY from folks like me!

159 posted on 01/09/2011 5:17:56 AM PST by Elsie
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To: greyfoxx39
Read Eusibius.

PD would say, "Well done, Grasshopper!"

160 posted on 01/09/2011 5:21:18 AM PST by Elsie
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