Posted on 01/03/2011 10:40:41 AM PST by RnMomof7
On January 3, 1521, Pope Leo X issues the papal bull Decet Romanum Pontificem, which excommunicates Martin Luther from the Catholic Church.
Martin Luther, the chief catalyst of Protestantism, was a professor of biblical interpretation at the University of Wittenberg in Germany when he drew up his 95 theses condemning the Catholic Church for its corrupt practice of selling indulgences, or the forgiveness of sins. He followed up the revolutionary work with equally controversial and groundbreaking theological works, and his fiery words set off religious reformers all across Europe.
In January 1521, Pope Leo X excommunicated Luther. Three months later, Luther was called to defend his beliefs before Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at the Diet of Worms, where he was famously defiant. For his refusal to recant his writings, the emperor declared him an outlaw and a heretic. Luther was protected by powerful German princes, however, and by his death in 1546, the course of Western civilization had been significantly altered.
Is that a lie?
"A political treaty recognising the full sovereignty of the Holy See in the State of Vatican City, which was thereby established."
Magic, myth, fables, miracles and voices in your head are the stuff of religion.
Signed Treaties are fact, they are realty - which apparently is anathema to you.
Actually, from a political point of view, which is what is being discussed, this time frame was the only time when the Papacy remotely approached being the political force that it is reputed to have been in the past, so it was good in that respect, and from a doctrinal/shepherding point of view, it is almost certainly in one of the top four stretches of the 2nd millenium—which also ended strongly—and if you are looking for a period longer than 50 years, almost certainly one of the top two stretches.
I have studied history as it pertains to the Papacy in much greater depth, and while Innocent III (1198-1216) did exercise great influence over multiple monarchs, and while those adjacent to him tried to immitate him, mostly they failed. An extremely good historian would know about Innocent and produce three examples from him—but this does not say much about the Papacy as a whole. During the time that the Popes were batting about .200, one could pick up a few other examples with relative ease. Any historian good enough to pick three examples out of the other 6% of the Church’s history would know that the examples are so few (I would guess between three and six, though I might be off by as many as three) so as to prove that the Pope’s have not been influential politicians.
There are many ways of calculating fastest growing Church. If I were asked to construct one to favour the Lutherans, I imagine I could—because I was trained as an economist, and a good economist can “prove” anything. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
and you claim to be a follower of Jesus? ok.....
I failed to respond to your assertion that people are far more educated today.
People today spend far more time in school than in the past, but whether they are being primarily educated or brainwashed may be debatable—though I am inclined to think that it is not debatable and that brainwashing is the clear winner.
Two books for your perusaul: Inventing the Flat Earth; and The Thirteenth, the Greatest of Centuries. The latter is by Walsh. Forget who the former is by.
I typed my own. However, a good side business. Let’s see, what do they charge for an annulment - we can charge accordingly. :)
But in celebration of them being FREE at last, I think a ‘no charge’ would be more appropriate. After all, our penalty has been PAID IN FULL!
Thank you, JESUS!
one question for you and i know you will get it right since you obviously are an expert on what the Catholic Church teaches:
True or False, The Catholic Church teaches Mary is a created being, is not God, is not to be worshipped, in fact worshipping her would be a grave sin and that worship is to be directed to the One True God, who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit?
The Orthodox are Schismatics, but are part of the Catholic Church since they have Apostolic Succession and valid Sacraments.
See post 254
As many of us have documented repeatedly hereon,
The Vatican Alice in Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling
speaks out of both sides
of it’s multiple mouths and fingers on such scores.
I plead guilty to following the “tradition of men” Their names? Paul, Peter, Luke, John, Andrew, James, Philip, Bartholomew, Thomas, Matthew and Mark. Sorry!
if St. Paul didn’t teach sola scriptura, why do you cling to this “TRADITION OF MEN”?
Tell us all what each one believed. Since you named them specifically, be specific on each one.
You might want to have a look at my post 154, as the Genesis 3:15 situation is actually even more nuanced, and more pro-St. Jerome than normally thought.
PERFECT! Pushing man made heresy teachings must be the new sport, along with the RCC advertisements of ‘come home’.
How pathetic and worldly.
It does make one wonder why the Pope does not wear a Pretzel instead of the Cross.
You disapoint me, surely with your vast knowledge of Catholic doctrine, after many years of study i am sure, would get this extremely easy question that any first grader could answer, correct. I guess I overestimated you. I see you have a different agenda than the truth.
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so," Hitler told Gerhard Engel, one of his generals, in 1941.
-- from the thread The Catholic Church and Nazi Germany: an exhaustive survey of John Toland's biography of Hitler,
quoting Gerhard Engel's 1974 work Heeresadjutant bei Hitler
Hitler, like Judas was a Catholic - a sinner and criminal but unquestionably Catholic. Of course so is Joe Biden and Michael Moore.And re your latin-only tagline: Pope Clement suppressed, and later dissolved, the Knights Templar. IMO bad news for someone who wishes for them to rise again.
-- FReeper narses, October 04, 2009
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