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To: T. P. Pole
I will admit, that seeing ANY JST references instead of POGP surprised me. This is newer than my resignation three years ago, or at least my last purchased copy of LDS scriptures.

You did not create the website, and I'm sure you didn't check them all any more than I did.

Tell me though, really, how is it possible that they don't use the whole JST ? Seems like a slap in the face to Joseph Smith. He said God told him to do it, and it took him years, why just discard it like that ?

870 posted on 01/03/2011 1:35:32 PM PST by SENTINEL (Mormonism...from Ezra Taft Benson to Reid and Romney in only one generation.)
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To: SENTINEL
I will admit, that seeing ANY JST references instead of POGP surprised me.

Apology accepted.

This is newer than my resignation three years ago, or at least my last purchased copy of LDS scriptures.

Pretty sure this dates back before that. I was using my "mission" scriptures to look up JST examples, which have a copyright date of 1979. I think that is about the time they first included them.

You did not create the website, and I'm sure you didn't check them all any more than I did.

You are correct there. Thanks for not making a big deal about that.

Tell me though, really, how is it possible that they don't use the whole JST ? Seems like a slap in the face to Joseph Smith. He said God told him to do it, and it took him years, why just discard it like that ?

The common explanation is that Joseph never completed them. If you were following reaganaut and my side conversation, there are two published versions (non-LDS official, BTW) of the JST-side-by-side with the KJV, one from the '70s and one in the last few years. The selling point of the more recent one is that they gained access to the RLDS archives and extracted newly-found, non-published additional sections. To me that suggests that the 1970s version was incomplete, and therefore any earlier version was incomplete, too.

A secondary explanation that I have heard is that we choose to use the commonly accepted KJV in order to not alienate non-members. For example, some times someone brings in a non-KJV Bible and reads from it in a Sunday School class. Everyone else in the room is looking at the KJV, and looks puzzled at the non-familiar text. For the record, I enjoy comparing the various translations, to see how various people considered certain words or concepts.

I would suspect the actual answer includes both of these, as well as the animosity between the RLDS and the LDS, preventing easy early adoption.

We also don't use the parts we do have much. It is looked at as a study guide and not a compete text. But this last Sunday in the adult Sunday School class there was a lengthy reading from the JST in the appendix (I think it was from John 1 - we are studying the New Testament this year).

901 posted on 01/03/2011 1:52:37 PM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: SENTINEL
I will admit, that seeing ANY JST references instead of POGP surprised me. This is newer than my resignation three years ago, or at least my last purchased copy of LDS scriptures.

See there!

This PROVES that GOD has REVEALED things to the Living Prophet lately!!!

And it ALSO proves that the 12 yesmen agreed wholeheartedly and unamimously that the LP did!

Otherwise; how to EXPLAIN the changes in the wording?

GOD must have SURELY dictacted the PREVIOUS stuff correctly, too!

--MormonDude(Oh... wait a minute... hold on there; let me check...)

1,191 posted on 01/03/2011 7:24:55 PM PST by Elsie
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