You never win, and you never admit that we had this discussion before. Oh we've discussed this on several occasions, however your interpretations are severely 'challenged' regarding who won or lost.
Lurkers, My page on FR. . .
Chews up drive space as an vehicle of mormon proselytizing.
As for Jesus making it clear, he made it clear that Divorce is adultery, he said nothing about polygamy.
Lurkers will note - scriptural interpretation is poorly developed among some mormon apologists. In this instance, it is further compounded by a blinding obedience to a dead prophet.
Lurkers will note, within the context of divorce, Jesus also clarifies the context of adultery (woops, DU missed that one, didn't he). Here is what Jesus REALLY said -
Mat 19:9 KJV - And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Mar 10:11 KJV - And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
Luk 16:18 KJV - Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from [her] husband committeth adultery.
Jesus stated only ONE condition for divorce - marital infidelity. In Jesus' eyes, divorce under any other condition was invalid an the two were still married. Thus if one or the other marries under this invalid divorce, it becomes adultery.
What DU apparently fails to recognize is that for the case of the man, now 'married' to TWO women (ie polygamy) is not sanctioned by Jesus but repudiated as adultery.
BTW, good 'law abiding' prophet smith broke the law when he began mormon polygamy and that violation of the law continued until wilson's revelation.
Spin, spin and spin Du. LOL
From now on when ANY MORMON TRIES TO USE MY LORD'S WORD TO DEFEND THEIR CULT, I WILL POST UP THE JST VERSION TO EMBARRASS THEM INTO SILENCE. THEY OWN THIS.
Mar 10:11 KJV - And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
Mar 10:10 JST (Smith added and removed entire verses through the bible thus different number) - And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Luk 16:18 KJV - Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from [her] husband committeth adultery.
Luke 16:23 JST (Yes Smith added THAT MANY verses to Luke 16) - But he continued, saying, Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery; and whosoever marrieth her who is put away from her husband, committeth adultery. Verily I say unto you, I will liken you unto the rich man.
Godzilla
Oh we've discussed this on several occasions, however your interpretations are severely 'challenged' regarding who won or lost.
It's so sad to hear a giant lizard bleating... Again.
Chews up drive space as an vehicle of mormon proselytizing.
So, you think I should post this over and over? I'm sure Jim would rather have it all in one place and referenced because he sees how much DB space re-posts use up, links are tiny in comparison, trust me, your a geologist, I'm a computer nerd. For once, just take my word for it.
Lurkers will note - scriptural interpretation is poorly developed among some mormon apologists. In this instance, it is further compounded by a blinding obedience to a dead prophet.
Yawn, really, can you bleat softer...Zzz.
Anyone who cares,
Matthew 5:31-32 KJV has Jesus condemning Divorce and calling remarriage of the divorced adultery.
Now, Godzilla, you big prehistoric lizard, post a similar scripture where Jesus condemns polygamy as adultery. I double dog dare you!
(He can'r because Jesus never said it)
Lurkers will note, within the context of divorce, Jesus also clarifies the context of adultery (woops, DU missed that one, didn't he).
I wouldn't say I was "missing" it Bob, um Godzilla.
Here is what Jesus REALLY said
For someone who cares about hard drive space, you sure don't link much...
Jesus stated only ONE condition for divorce - marital infidelity. In Jesus' eyes, divorce under any other condition was invalid an the two were still married. Thus if one or the other marries under this invalid divorce, it becomes adultery.
Yep, so marriage to someone else after divorce is adultery...Divorce for anything other than Infidelity...Adultery, Got it (Already had it...).
What DU apparently fails to recognize is that for the case of the man, now 'married' to TWO women (ie polygamy) is not sanctioned by Jesus but repudiated as adultery.
So in your opinion, Jesus is saying if a man gets a divorce and then remarries is the same as staying married and getting married again...
You do know that a lot of people now days get divorced and remarried who would never think of just staying married and adding a wife, right? (Just checking)
So, they and I disagree with you that there is no difference. I wold say that Jesus is saying, if you can't keep the first wife, you don'r deserve a second one. Hey, i know as long as we are adding to the Bible, maybe we should just say that Jesus thinks... Wait we're not supposed to add to the Bible are we... I just don't see the word polygamy in there, because it's not in there.
BTW, good 'law abiding' prophet smith broke the law when he began mormon polygamy and that violation of the law continued until wilson's revelation.
So, were the Indians Breaking the Law when they had more than one Squaw? if so what law?
The Edmunds–Tucker Act being passed in 1887, was in court being challenged for three years and was not in force until 1890, and was repealed (since it was unconstitutional) in 1978.
Joseph smith died (we believe martyred...) in 1844.
The city of Nauvoo was allowed by it's charter to supersede the laws of the state if it so desired.
Nauvoo had no law against polygamy.
These are facts. There was no "law" for Joseph to break, he died before the Federal law was passed. You could argue that what he did was immoral, but appeals to the Bible have not worked out well for you in the past either.
Joseph was not breaking any law by having a polygamous marriage.
Spin, spin and spin Du. LOL?
Bleat Bleat and Bleat again, Godzilla, it's so embarrassing to watch you fail on this yet again.
Anyone who cares, there's a whole bunch
here
Delph