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To: reaganaut
Biblical not a man made doctrine. Sorry to burst your bubble. And ONE God means ONE God, not 3 gods united in purpose. You sound like Clinton.

Not according to Jesus and the analogy he drew between his and God the Father's oneness and the oneness the disciples should have, it's in John 17 in case you actually care to look it up (Don't go there it's a trap! the Mormons have edited your bible in your house!!!!)

And God does not teach man can become Gods that is a lie from Satan.

Satan did indeed tell Eve that she would be "as the Gods knowing Good from evil" The thing about Satan is you can't even rely on him to lie all the time. God confirms in Genesis that Eve had become as the Gods knowing good from evil. Prove me wrong. Try looking at Genesis 3:5,22 you'll see that God says Satan's promise came true, well one of them. I guess he was willing to tell them a truth to get them to swallow (pun intended) the lie that they wouldn't die.

Delph “Just for the record, believing in Christ is a work”

It is a work of GOD, not a work of us. If you stick your hand out to receive a gift, did you earn it? Is it a work? No. (John 6:29).

LOL! I don't think you are applying that correctly, but believe what you wish, I really am not here to try to convince you to do anything but pray more.

And I know much more about Mormonism than you ever will. And I know more about the Bible than you do as well, that is obvious.

ROTFLOL!!!

Now, not only can you read and comprehend what is in my mind now, you can extrapolate the future. So, what number am I thinking of? (BTW, unless this rule has changed too, mind reading is not allowed on the forums)

I love how the LDS keep taking James out of context and ignore the rest of the New Testament. They manipulate the Bible and twist scripture for their own ends THEN TURN AROUND AND SAY IT IS CORRUPT!

You know, when I talk to you, I know exactly what you mean!!!

BTW, I am never afraid of anything Mormon, Satan no longer has power over me.

You know, just when you stop worrying about being misled is when you are in the most danger, but have it your way.

Delph
1,677 posted on 01/04/2011 9:18:51 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
You're still in the dark, son, trying to twist the Bible to refute itself. Your father must be proud. Can you feel his pride burning in your bosom?

John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

1,681 posted on 01/04/2011 9:31:57 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: DelphiUser
The doctrine according to Mormon theology is that Jesus was not God Himself but an older brother to all of us. But according to the BOM it specifically states that it was God himself that came down as Jesus. So naturally when a Christian reads the BOM he finds not too much difference. It is only when you get into their deeper theology that you find bad doctrine. Doctrine that contradicts itself on the most fundamental levels. Such as who is God. Book of Mormon (Condradicts that Jesus was the OLDER brother)

Mosiah 13:34: “Have they not said that God himself should come down among the children of men, and take upon him the form of man, and go forth in mighty power upon the face of the earth?”

Mosiah 15:1-5: “And now Abinadi said unto them: I would that ye should understand that God himself shall come down among the children of men, and shall redeem his people. And because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son— The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son— And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth. And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, suffereth temptation...”

Mosiah 16:15: “Teach them that redemption cometh through Christ the Lord, who is the very Eternal Father.”

Alma 11:26-33: And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God? And Amulek said: Yea, there is a true and living God. Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No. Now Zeezrom said unto him again: How knowest thou these things? And he said: An angel hath made them known unto me. And Zeezrom said again: Who is he that shall come? Is it the Son of God? And he said unto him, Yea.”

Alma 11:38-40: Now Zeezrom saith again unto him: Is the Son of God the very Eternal Father? And Amulek said unto him: Yea, he is the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth, and all things which in them are; he is the beginning and the end, the first and the last; And he shall come into the world to redeem his people; and he shall take upon him the transgressions of those who believe on his name; and these are they that shall have eternal life, and salvation cometh to none else.”

In Mosiah it says, “God himself” shall come down among the children of men. “God himself”. What better words to explain who Jesus is! In Mosiah it also says Jesus is “…Christ the Lord, who is the very Eternal Father”. This isn’t written in another language or in need of further interpretation, but comes from the Book of Mormon – a book proclaimed to be “the most correct book on the face of the earth”! The Book of Mormon – and the Bible – teach there is only one Eternal Father and He is our Father in heaven who is over all, not just ‘over this earth’, but over all that exists and all that will ever exist. Why don’t you believe these verses from the Book of Mormon? If the Book of Mormon is the most correct book on the earth, why doesn’t it say, “Jesus, who is our eternal brother”?

How can the Book of Mormon be the most correct book on the earth when the LDS Church doesn’t accept and teach the above passages? Growing up, I was always taught that the Book of Mormon is “the most correct book on the face of the earth”. I don’t know who originally said that, as far as church history, but I’ve heard this quote or phrase many times. To find out that the Book of Mormon agrees with the Bible on who God is, was like a lightning bolt from the sky. Can you tell me why the LDS Church doesn’t teach this – especially since it is in the Book of Mormon? It doesn’t make sense that your church does not accept it’s own scriptures.

What does himeslf mean in Mormonism. Some one else? Don't believe your lying eyes.

1,690 posted on 01/04/2011 9:53:20 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: DelphiUser
You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think


1,724 posted on 01/05/2011 6:52:36 AM PST by Elsie
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