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Since "time" is the focus of today, perhaps it's "time" for the Mormon priesthood to embrace Joseph Smith's "prophesy" about this in its entirety!

'Twas a November day 1831 - 170 years ago...when Smith said:

...this is an ensample unto ALL who were ordained unto this priesthood...and this is the ensample unto them, that they shall speak as they are 'moved upon' by the Holy Ghost... [v. 4:] And WHATSOEVER they shall speak when moved upon by the Holy Ghost SHALL BE SCRIPTURE, ,
shall be the will of the Lord,
shall be the mind of the Lord,
shall be the word of the Lord,
shall be the voice of the Lord...

Do Mormons catch the "shall be scripture" part?

Smith wasn't speaking to just the upper-etchelon "priesthood" parties...no, v. 2 clearly say "ALL" ordained unto the Mormon priesthood!

Any plain, non-esoteric reading of D&C 68:2-4 makes it quite clear that Smith was saying all Lds ordained priests have "scripture-factory" producing power and authority.

?Now IF that's the case, why are you able to focus on part of this verse -- what the Holy Ghost does -- but you, a Mormon who supposedly greatly emphasizes works, doesn't mention what Mormon priests are supposed to do when so moved -- and that is capture "whatsoever they shall speak" as new Mormon "scripture"??

Now why hasn't the Mormon church, the Mormon Melchizedek priesthood, obeyed D&C 68:2-4? (I'll attempt to answer that Q at the bottom)

In fact, why haven't we even seen the "First Presidencies" going back to Brigham obey this? Why, we'd expect at least them to be "scripture" factories, right? Where's all the new canonized "stuff"? (Tucked away in some granite vault in the Wasatch Mtns?)

Why do Mormons tend to only partially acknowledge that the Lord can reveal His will? (Verbally, yes; in ink, as new "scripture," no???)

And Mormons have the gall to get on Christians for not recognizing that God is done speaking?

So Mormons say they alone have the lone true "prophet" of the earth...
...and they are among the "remnant" that believes in continuing revelation...
...And, they say that their "priesthood" has this Smith charge to proclaim new "scripture" per D&C 68:2-4...
...but they don't...??? ...they've disobeyed for 165 years?

Now to answer why the Lds church hasn't obeyed D&C 68:2-4: Why? Because it's a false prophesy. The entire male church holder positions were never meant to be "scripture factories." Anybody who thinks that should be so hasn't thought through the bedlam & chaos that would create. The stife, the confusion, the rebellion, the lack of submission to leadership, the... (I could go on & on).

All anybody has to do is read about the Mormon murders by ex-Lds members (Ron & Dan Lafferty, 1984, in book Under the Banner of Heaven)...to realize the pitfalls of Lds "personal revelation" -- Ron Lafferty went from being a city council member in Highland, UT, a first counselor to an Lds bishop, youth activities' leader, to somebody involved in a "school of prophets" and convited of murder of his sister-in-law and her daughter, along with his brother. [Looks to me like they took Smith's D&C 68:2-4 very seriously]

7 posted on 12/31/2010 10:02:14 AM PST by Colofornian (Final filtered authority figures of Lds: PR spokesmen & Unofficial Mormon links Some Lds use)
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To: Colofornian; Spiff; JustTheTruth; All
Interesting commentary from the LDS website on Gospel Topics - "Prophets".

We can always trust the living prophets. Their teachings reflect the will of the Lord, who declared: "What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same" (D&C 1:38).

Since their TEACHING reflects the will of the 'Lord', then too, those same TEACHINGS will reflect church doctrine and not contradict it - since it reflects the 'lords' will. Thus any teaching disregarded by mormons are disregarding the will of the 'lord'. Apostle's teachings are included in this as well (see D&C 1:14-16)

If they TAUGHT 'unofficial' doctrine - then they are FALSE TEACHERS and accordingly FALSE PROPHETS iaw mormon doctrine above - pure and simple.

19 posted on 12/31/2010 11:11:30 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Colofornian
Smith said:

...this is an ensample unto ALL who were ordained unto this priesthood...and this is the ensample unto them, that they shall speak as they are 'moved upon' by the Holy Ghost... [v. 4:] And WHATSOEVER they shall speak when moved upon by the Holy Ghost SHALL BE SCRIPTURE

Well; Brother Smith (pbuh) may have SAID this; but since IT is not 'scripture' itself, it must not be TRUE!

--MormonDude(Makes sense to ME!)

35 posted on 12/31/2010 1:26:18 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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