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To: Rashputin

>> “That would make you no better than the Mohammadan savages.”

> You make plenty of Ass umptions so I guess everyone can
> tell what you worship

Why don’t you quote me in context? After all, you’re all for accuracy, right?

I said ...


Maybe you don’t think they were Christians, either, so their horrible torture and deaths were justified.

That would make you no better than the Mohammadan savages.


Do you think their horrible torture and deaths were justified? If so, then where is *YOUR* Christian charity, which you so sarcastically deny of me?


24 posted on 12/29/2010 1:00:37 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook
Paulists - dualists who didn't recognize the majority of the New Testament and none of the Old Testament.

Waldensians - dualists who asserted that there was no need to be approved by the Church in order to preach. The Church, in fact, said they could continue teaching but could not preach in the Church. The Waldensians, however, refused that and asserted that since the Church accepted the Old Testament and since the Old Testament was of, by, and about, the evil God, the Church was evil and dared the Church to silence them. The Chruch is accused of “slaughtering” them but somehow, they only rounded up a few leaders and the Waldensians existed until the Turks purged Armenia just prior to WWI. I suppose some people think the Turks were part of the Catholic Church? Whatever.

Bogomilism - duelists who also somehow managed to survive until the 1980s when the Muslims wiped out the last few Churches and those who attended them. I guess all this Catholic slaughter wasn't all it's cracked up to be.

Oh, dualist means they thought God and Satan were equal and fighting over who would be in control. Now people like to say they knew God would defeat Satan, but their own writings left that in doubt and even encouraged many people to turn to Satan rather than God. Pretty much like a lot of New Age BS these days, really, that says all spiritual matters are about the same with no real, objective, good and evil.)

Cathars - didn't believe in the incarnation or the ressurection (since Christ was never human, he didn't need to rise from the dead). Believed the entire physical world including man himself was created by Satan and that freeing oneself from the physical (by starvation if you could) was the ideal. The majority of them were slaughtered by a French king who just happened to murder more Catholics at the same time since his idea was to just shut down the argument between the Cathars and the Dominicans in order to pacify the province the primary strength of the Cathars was from.

Albigenses - more duelists. How about that? Christ had no physical body he just made people think he did. He didn't come as our Savior but rather to let us know that the whole world was of Satan. They, too, were wiped out but during the whole French attack on them the Pope was trying to get the French to stop rather than continue slaughtering them. People like to overlook that part of the matter even though it's well documented. I've even seen people claim the Pope was just doing that to look good on paper (even though less than 3% of the population could read).

So, there were always dualists, those who are not Catholic these days are the real Christians, and are duelists as well. Right?

No, and claiming that there is a long thread of an alternate Church is just silly. It's some sort of history envy or something. If the Catholic Church went awry and Luther was right, then there doesn't need to be any prior history outside of the Church. There only needs to be a point at which the Church ceased to follow the truth. The problem is, of course, that little tidbit about “the gates of hell shall not prevail”. Without making up a history it gets difficult to claim that part of the Word for you own little group. Protestants really are each and every one their own Pope, something you realize when you've lived long enough and studied enough to recognize the fact that there's got to be something wrong with dozens upon dozens of denominations in every town and all of them claiming to be the only correct interpreter of the Word.

have a nice whatever I don't, by the by, advocate torture and death of those who are not Christian, I leave that sort of thinking to folks like you who ascribe their own inclinations to others.

28 posted on 12/29/2010 1:32:35 PM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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