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To: MeganC

You wrote:

“Say what you will, the Roman Catholic Church has been historically repressive and corrupt.”

What is that even supposed to mean? Can you name a serious world religion that is not “historically repressive”? Did not the Jews under Moses go through the camp and slaughter those who had betrayed the Law? The simple fact is that just about everyone on the planet - ever - has been corrupt to one degree or another. That doesn’t make the Church corrupt.

“On the matter of doctrine that’s up to the individual to decide (a choice your church historically denied to others) but on the matter of simple behavior the church has been repressive and corrupt.”

Again, what does that even mean? Did Jesus think everyone should just think up there own doctrines? Is the Trinity essential? Who decides that? Why? How?

“The RCC murdered people who translated the Bible to make it more accessible to more people,”

That is utter rubbish. Name the person who was ever once tried or murdered by the Catholic Church for translating the Bible. Can you do it? No, you will fail. I already know you will fail because I studied this FOR YEARS and went through every case known to man on this matter and the end result was ZERO. No one was ever tried for translating the Bible. No such “crime” existed in the Church’s canon law. Also, since the Church had real authority - as recognized by everyone - no one was ever murdered by the church no matter what the outcome of any heresy trial.

Again, give me the name of one person ever tried by the Catholic Church for translating the Bible. Also, explain to me how and why Catholics translated the Bible and - INCREDIBLY - never got into trouble for it when you’re saying they had to have been murdered for it. The kind of ignorance you are wallowing in is stunning.

“the RCC burned Bibles it didn’t approve of,”

And? Would you hand out New World Translations to people? That’s the Jehovah’s Witness Bible. Protestants have burned copies of it in the past. Is that wrong - to burn a copy of a Bible that denies the Trinity and divinity of Christ? Look at this Protestant’s page. He says he would happily burn at least five versions of the Bible: http://www.born-again-christian.info/questions.answers.htm
I think you’re being a triffle naive.

“the RCC and the matter of indulgences is well documented,”

Oh, here we go. Let me just embarrass you out of the gate. Can you post for me any evidence - anything concrete at all - that shows the Catholic Church taught that SELLING indulgences was okay, permissible, good, etc.? I ask, because I know the Church never condoned such a thing - I’ve done the research - and so, when I hear someone say, “and the matter of indulgences is well documented” I know I am about to see someone show that he or she knows absolutely nothing about the subject. When you fail - and you will - to produce the evidence that you allude to being “well documented” everyone else will know it too.

“the RCC and its abuse of unmarried mothers in Ireland is near legendary,”

Because it is a legend. The Church never once abused unmarried mothers in Ireland. First of all, you’re talking about the Magdalene asylums - which were invented by PROTESTANTS!!! Anyone who has ever researched this topic - and I am willing to bet you never have - knows the first was founded by the PROTESTANT noble woman named Lady Arabella Denny in Dublin in the late 18th century when the Protestants ran England and were oppressing the Irish.
Some of the asylums were Protestant and some Catholic. None were run by the Catholic Church, however. Some were run by religious orders, but none were funded or regulated by Catholic bishops. Most of the women referred to the Magdalene Asylums in Ireland were sent there by THE IRISH GOVERNMENT.

“and the RCC and its systematic denial and coverup of homosexual pederasty has been so bad that even Pope Benedict has denounced it!”

That’s false. Pope Benedict never once said there was a Church coverup. He has said that bishops didn’t do their jobs and he might have said there were coverups by bishops. He never once said there was an “RCC ...systematic denial and coverup of homosexual pederasty”. You’re simply making that up out of thin air.

“Again, I will not discuss matters of doctrine as that’s between you and your maker. But the facts of RCC corruption and abuses speak for themselves.”

Apparently you don’t know the facts - as demonstrated by the fact that you didn’t present any.


21 posted on 12/29/2010 12:55:27 PM PST by vladimir998 (Copts, Nazis, Franks and Beans - what a public school education puts in your head.)
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