[caww]

With all due respect Cronos...the point of that post was geared toward catholics consistantly bringing the topic back to Mary ....rather than Christ...who after all is the focus of Christmas. It is about His birth...the Savior has arrived.

I have attempted several times to speak of Christ only to have catholics respond with Mary as the focus of his birth. And the point is they view Mary as more significant in the birth of Christ than the event that He has come.

[narses]

And the point is they view Mary as more significant in the birth of Christ than the event that He has come.

Not one Catholic anywhere believes that. You seem to be incapable of understanding the Truth. Very sad.

[Cronos]

and that's the thing -- if you see posts like these, they are raised by anti-CAtholics such as gamecock. If on the other hand you go to a Mass today or this week you will see only a focus on Christ -- as normal. I suspect it's only anti-Catholics which seem to consistently bring the topic away from Christ.

Check out any thread and you'll see how the anti-Catholic instantly changes the issue away -- even threads which start off (like this one) with a focus away from Christ