[caww]

What Catholics as a whole seem to miss is that the Gospel is about Jesus, not Mary.

Yes, I think so too as is evidenced in the posts. Interesting that during this time of year where we celebrate Christ's birth...the fact the discussions are NOT about Him, rather Mary ..was she or not a virgin...was she or not sinless, etc. etc. etc. It's all about her. This should be an eyeopener to catholics...why are they not discussing the wonder of His Birth?

The Angels who announced...the shepherds who were first told of His birth...the kings who came to worship Him...All that we know is recorded around the Savior coming at this Christmas celebration time is lost on these threads on Mary. So the truth of where her importance is among catholics is clear...she IS honored more than the wonder that the Savior has arrived.

[Judith Anne]

the fact the discussions are NOT about Him, rather Mary ..was she or not a virgin...was she or not sinless, etc. etc. etc. It's all about her.

As far as I can see on multiple threads, the Catholics have no discussion about "was she or not a virgin... was she or not sinless, etc. etc. etc. It's all about her" Catholic teaching is clear. It's the proddies arguing, God bless them. As though baiting Catholics about Mary was more important than celebrating the birth of the Savior of all mankind.

Why not drop it, and post some great threads about what you DO teach about Christ, not how Catholics are wrong, don't know scripture, elevate Mary above Christ, etc. etc. etc. Trust me, lurkers are not dumb, they can make up their own minds.

[Mad Dawg]

Your side is making itself ridiculous. An OP is put up with about equal parts ignorance, falsehood, and sophistry all directed against what some bigot mistakenly thinks we Catholics think about Mary. That is, YOUR side brings up the subject of Mary.

. When the dwindling number of Catholics who still think there might be a few on your side interested in Truth and Reason respond, one of those on your side who has clearly and frequently made, with great firmness, statements which are not only false but easily shown to be false says we think the Gospels are about Mary!

And you leap to agree! You all want us to think that your side can be faithful in large matters of truth, but your side misrepresents the obvious. You all want your discernment of hidden things to be sovereign when you do not see clearly what is in front of your faces.

Faithless in little things, you demand acquiescence in great things.

[Cronos]

Caww: Yes, I think so too as is evidenced in the posts. Interesting that during this time of year where we celebrate Christ's birth...the fact the discussions are NOT about Him, rather Mary ..was she or not a virgin...was she or not sinless, etc. etc. etc. It's all about her

Actually -- you should notice that this thread was posted by RnMo7 -- who left the Church and is pretty rabidly against it -- perhaps your groups should realise that during this time of year where we celebrate Christ's birth. Why do you guys instead seem to just talk about anything BUT Christ? Weird....