To: Grizzled Bear; Cannonball Bill
to think you were ever filled with grace as she was or is?
GB -- do note that CB says "as filled AS" -- now we know that Gabriel hailed Mary as kecharitome that is "full (to the brim) with grace"
We understand it as the angel speaking with the same awe when we see a beautiful vase -- he was awe-struck by God's creature mary who was filled with God's grace.
With due respect to you or anyone else, while you would be filled with grace like a cup that is full, Mary was like a cup overflowing, hence the expression of the angel. While of course you may get filled to your capacity with God's freely given grace, Mary was filled with it to overflowing -- making the container holy for a reason, a purpose -- I do not believe that any other created being would get as filled BY GOD as she was.
CB --> do note that we have many Protestants who believe the same as we do that Mary was filled with grace more than other creatures. Lutherans and Traditional Anglicans believe the same as we do, so painting all Protestants with a broad brush isn't quite correct.
148 posted on
12/16/2010 1:10:32 AM PST by
Cronos
(Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
To: Cronos; Grizzled Bear
we have many Protestants who believe the same as we do that Mary was filled with grace more than other creatures. Lutherans If your #152 is an example of 'what Catholics believe about Mary', you must be joking about what Lutherans believe.
257 posted on
12/16/2010 9:25:23 AM PST by
xone
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